Windows 10 LTSC 1809 - Optimize Gaming/Poweruser/Runtime Profile, retaining maximum compatibility. For x64/UEFI systems

[Clanger]

I prefer to date my packs, i may date file versions instead of V number, i know when they were written then.

 

[Clanger]

And its handy if you have to make very quick changes after a brainfart(i got the t shirt)

 

[evolve]

Yeah rediculous stuff is happening these days!
Avoid DCH at all cost!

For Nvidia driver i still pick regular, and use NVTrimmer tool before install driver. So much junk in it these days. You only require 4 out of 15 components to have a fully working Nvidia driver in example. So much bloat everywhere, is why we need NTLite. Why is everything not optional or opt-in instead of forced into our guts? The world is completely turned around.

Btw, another profile update may be incoming soon. Still tweaking and checking if nothing breaks, I had problem activating Windows with some tweak Its mostly some configuration changes.

- Xbox Controller driver added, screwed myself up with that one. It is also a gaming profile after all. Never required it until recent.
- Removing two bcdedit entries, it seems better to just keep it at default (ticks/platform)\
- Disabling lots of Event Logging stuff
- Removed components pretty much the same.
- Retweaking some services.

Good thing a reinstall + all configuration/installation of stuff only takes me a few hours at most. Kinda gets second nature after 50+ reinstalls
To see if anything breaks is way more time consuming. But if i do see it, I report it to Nuhi ofcourse (but only if it smells like an unintended bug)

first thanks for update on the profile yeah thank you placing version on it was good idea

i have three questions sry i just see this tool you said (NVTrimmer) i downloaded but you said we only need 4 components can u tell me which one to select ?
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and about this profile i just changed some (non systemic for example acronis program services) in extra services which is set in boot mode and my live windows version couldnt boot i dont know should i just not change settings here ?
although i changed idm service which was in automatic and that was fine
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and i think your profile disabling pptp vpn connections now it wont launch the connection interface how can i restore it ?

thanks a lot

 

[MT_]

first thanks for update on the profile yeah thank you placing version on it was good idea

i have three questions sry i just see this tool you said (NVTrimmer) i downloaded but you said we only need 4 components can u tell me which one to select ?
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and about this profile i just changed some (non systemic for example acronis program services) in extra services which is set in boot mode and my live windows version couldnt boot i dont know should i just not change settings here ?
although i changed idm service which was in automatic and that was fine
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and i think your profile disabling pptp vpn connections now it wont launch the connection interface how can i restore it ?

thanks a lot

Hi! For NVTrimmer you only need Core, and probably want PhysX, maybe NGX for Nvidia RTX, and VC Runtime if you haven't have it installed yet. Never had any problems with just these four.

I'm not really sure I understand the second question.

I will try and see what dependencies are needed for pptp.

 

[MT_]

For PPTP enable:

- Routing and Remote Access Support
- Remote Access Connection Manager

I can't find anyting else in removed components related to PTPP, so I hope these are the ones. They add back the WAN Miniports, and i tried creating a PTPP connection in virtual machine and it said some driver was missing so that sounds like the Miniports missing.

First try this, if it still doesn't work after reinstall maybe enable some related stuff in services.msc, or possible whatever is disabled in MT!-LTSC-DISABLE-MISCELLANEOUS-DRIVERS-AND-SERVICES.reg

NdisVirtualBus sounds like a potential candidate, not sure.

 

[MT_]

I'm still debating putting this back in maybe, but if i decide to do so I will surely disable the drivers/services by default.

There are still some tweaks I want to implement, mostly post-setup so that can be changed after install

 

[evolve]

For PPTP enable:

- Routing and Remote Access Support
- Remote Access Connection Manager

I can't find anyting else in removed components related to PTPP, so I hope these are the ones. They add back the WAN Miniports, and i tried creating a PTPP connection in virtual machine and it said some driver was missing so that sounds like the Miniports missing.

First try this, if it still doesn't work after reinstall maybe enable some related stuff in services.msc, or possible whatever is disabled in MT!-LTSC-DISABLE-MISCELLANEOUS-DRIVERS-AND-SERVICES.reg

NdisVirtualBus sounds like a potential candidate, not sure.

hmm sry mybe i should say this before iam on ltsb not ltsc and also did many of your reg tweaks for ltsc ( i dont think it breaks anything yeah ?!)

also i dont have these you said in my services it might be removed tho with ntlite
- Routing and Remote Access Support
- Remote Access Connection Manager

puted NdisVirtualBus on automatic and restarted system nothing changed

this is what i see :
Task manager :


dialer in new ui for windows 10 it stucked in connecting :



dialer in adapter menu when i try to select properties


thanks for your help

 

[MT_]

- Routing and Remote Access Support
- Remote Access Connection Manager

Those are removed components, you'll have to put them back. If you dont see them in components removal somewhere you probably loaded the stripped build? You can't put stuff back into a stripped build. You'll have to reload the stock image and re-do with my profile. Otherwise maybe the components are named differently on LTSC vs LTSB.

But so much changes per Windows build, I can really give zero guarantee on using LTSB with this LTSC profile, sounds like a bad idea ;-)

 

[Clanger]

There are 2 years and 4 major updates between ltsb 1607 and ltsc 1809 so using an ltsc preset on ltsb may well cause havoc, a lot of swearing, baldness, a greater intake of caffene and nicotine aswell as a week in the hoohoo hotel, i wouldnt even bother trying. If you tried to use a 1903 preset on 1909 then you might have some success because its only 1 build number away, but 4? I would build from scratch.

You can mess around with disabling services but be prepared for bricked builds so try them on test installs direct to hardware only, you can fine tune them when you finally install on the target machine. I have bareboned XP 7 8.1 and 10 services i have had a lot of bricked installs, you have been warned

Otherwise maybe the components are named differently on LTSC vs LTSB.

Some maybe but dependencies highly likely to vary.
Sods law says it may work with some minimal changes only, just needs someone potty enough to try it.

But so much changes per Windows build

2 years and 4 major updates between ltsb/c builds is enough to warrant treating each version as a new os in its own right even though there are similarities between different os's and 10 builds, its easier to build up in stages than trying to back track and bug hunt(game over man, game over).

 

[MT_]

Yep I've noticed as I've been tweaking basically since 1607.

Its very time consuming maintaining one build.

I give him best of luck but... This this is close to madness :-x

 

[Clanger]

LTSB drove me mad so i gave up on it, found 8.1 instead but ltsc has been very receptive to tweaking
Time consuming? i went from xp straight to 7. Spent a year getting to know my way around then 2 at least liting it, that was long hard work, each time nuhi added new removals so did i, god it was very hard work.

 

[MT_]

Completely forgot about Windows 7, was peanuts though. If it wasn't for Windows 10's driver model efficiency I would still be on there.

Sadly though newer gamers seem to run less well on Windows 7, I think its the WDDM 2.x.
Also NVMe never really worked well for me on 7. Huge load often made the OS freeze for seconds in a row. On two completely different hardware systems.

 

[Clanger]

7 kept loosing my dvd drives, aero would crash and revert to basic theme on an apu with single channel ram, limited dism, 8.1 and 10 have better ram usage.

 

[MT_]

Yea my bots all run W8 due to lower mem consumption and still ability to disable DWM without bugging out. Special purpose machines.

With the proper tweaks and stuff W8.1 was technically a much improved W7.

Only the UI had some crap but all can be resolved, thats why for the greater public 8.1 was mostly failsauce.

 

[evolve]

hello again sry my english is not that good
thanks guys i knew mybe what you may say but i tried to do this because i have a full backup and no worries for me i also did 1607 profile by mt on this windows together .

and i would say many things working really ok here i dont know why but my windows feels even more responsive
so far only problem i have is this pptp thing .
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Those are removed components, you'll have to put them back. If you dont see them in components removal somewhere you probably loaded the stripped build? You can't put stuff back into a stripped build. You'll have to reload the stock image and re-do with my profile. Otherwise maybe the components are named differently on LTSC vs LTSB.

hmm its not stripped as far as i know but can i load the stock 1607 iso file and reinstall missing component on my live version ?

 

[MT_]

hello again sry my english is not that good
thanks guys i knew mybe what you may say but i tried to do this because i have a full backup and no worries for me i also did 1607 profile by mt on this windows together .

and i would say many things working really ok here i dont know why but my windows feels even more responsive
so far only problem i have is this pptp thing .
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hmm its not stripped as far as i know but can i load the stock 1607 iso file and reinstall missing component on my live version ?

Ah you used my older profile. All those were more experimental than anything, was quite a noob back then

I think NTlite has ability to re-add component after install, personally the last time I tried this I had little luck :-(

You can try recreate LTSB and click VPN compatibility maybe it should add back the wan miniports and related connection stuff.

 

[catsmoke]

you...probably want PhysX

By my count, in the past five years there have been about five significant, successful PC games released, that use PhysX:

1. Life is Strange (Jan. 2015)
2. Witcher 3 (May 2015)
3. Fallout 4 (Feb. 2016)
4. Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade (Sep. 2016)
5. Star Citizen (Dec. 2016)

Note that the most recent is four years old.

If you don't play any of these, then you probably don't need PhysX. (My hyperlinked text, above, leads to a webpage with a good list of all the games that have used PhysX.)

 

[Clanger]

i dont know why but my windows feels even more responsive

MT_ has put in some tweaks that speed up parts of the windows ui, menus popups etc, ms usually sets them to a medium speed that makes windows feel very doughy, stuff takes a long time to show/open etc and decreasing those times makes windows ui quicker. Once you add in other tweaks the difference can be very noticable, like driving a car with the handbrake on then handbrake off.

 

[MT_]

Mhh, yeah unless there is some weird configuration/hardware conflict there is not that much native speed difference with 1607 and 1809! Unless my hardware is just too fast to notice

 

[Clanger]

Speeding up the ui(and other tweaks) gives more noticable improvements than overclocking if you are a non gamer.