GamerOS Windows 10 & 11 DIY Preset
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Never tried the Windows backup tool, but let's start with the obvious. Remove these tweaks from Event Logs:
To test this without re-imaging, search for these keys in regedit, flip them to 1 and reboot.
Code:
<Tweak name="Channels\Microsoft-Windows-Backup\Enabled">0</Tweak>
<Tweak name="Microsoft-Windows-Crypto-DPAPI\BackUpKeySvc\Enabled">0</Tweak>
<Tweak name="Microsoft-Windows-FileHistory-Engine\BackupLog\Enabled">0</Tweak>
<Tweak name="Microsoft-Windows-OneBackup\Debug\Enabled">0</Tweak>
<Tweak name="Microsoft-Windows-WindowsBackup\ActionCenter\Enabled">0</Tweak>To test this without re-imaging, search for these keys in regedit, flip them to 1 and reboot.
Before wasting time reversing tweaks and components test this on an untouched image. As I recall in Windows 10 client the backup feature is used together with OneDrive or something similar (cloud storage). As I understand it is kept on Windows 10 for compatibility and only serves to restore backups created on Windows 7.
Macrium Reflect free doesn't do that?
CatSlobber
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Just to quickly add... The Win7 Backup and Restore works fully in Windows 11. I tested it in a VM with an untouched installation. I will try with the tweaks.
You're right, I had disabled some services so I was getting errors
So I ask you, did you disable any services or remove other components?
The preset doesn't remove it. What you need to enable is:
Components -> System -> Volume Shadow Copy (API) -> Volume Shadow Copy -> Windows Backup
Also try to keep:
Components -> System -> Encryption File System (EFS) - Service -> Encryption File System (EFS) - Feature -> File History
If its a backup feature you want, why not use GImageX and the inbuilt Recovery Image of windows? I use that here, it works well enough for what it is.
Oh, and I've found that Sometimes Backup and Restore fails if "Workstation" service is not on the default setting (I forgot if default is Automatic (Delayed Start), Automatic, or Manual. This implies Backup and Restore uses SMB protocols for something or another, since (IIRC) this service is a component of SMB.
Oh, and I've found that Sometimes Backup and Restore fails if "Workstation" service is not on the default setting (I forgot if default is Automatic (Delayed Start), Automatic, or Manual. This implies Backup and Restore uses SMB protocols for something or another, since (IIRC) this service is a component of SMB.
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Windows Backup seems to depend on several other components. I hate that. You are required to keep several services running in background for features you might never use.
The services I disabled and cause errors in Windows Backup are related to COM+ components.
COM+ Event System service
COM+ System Application
System Event Notification Service
Distributed Transaction Coordinator
The services I disabled and cause errors in Windows Backup are related to COM+ components.
COM+ Event System service
COM+ System Application
System Event Notification Service
Distributed Transaction Coordinator
CatSlobber
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I still have not been able to solve it…
I am using the stock GamerOS preset for testing with nothing else removed. Here’s what I’ve seen:
Tried the tweaks. I enabled Volume Shadow Copy and EFS. Workstation, COM+, Virtual Disk, SENS, and DTC services are all present and active. after installation, I even set every service to run in the list just to test. All without luck.
The other oddity is that the File History service is present and running, but the File History feature will not open when clicked. I have a feeling this is related and I’m missing just one piece of the puzzle.
Edit: tried adding back System Guard, Defender, Security Center, COM+ API, and Action Center. Still no luck.
I am using the stock GamerOS preset for testing with nothing else removed. Here’s what I’ve seen:
Tried the tweaks. I enabled Volume Shadow Copy and EFS. Workstation, COM+, Virtual Disk, SENS, and DTC services are all present and active. after installation, I even set every service to run in the list just to test. All without luck.
The other oddity is that the File History service is present and running, but the File History feature will not open when clicked. I have a feeling this is related and I’m missing just one piece of the puzzle.
Edit: tried adding back System Guard, Defender, Security Center, COM+ API, and Action Center. Still no luck.
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This is a sample of the latest gameros preset, im working on services for this exact reason, i get disabled system restore, but without the 100 services set system restore still works its only when I change services does system restore break, I will take some time and figure out the services so that i can still disable some with system restore still working let me know what you think, and yes yes I know ive cut it into sections and havent set the suggested stuff for public presets, easier for you to see where I got most of the tweaks, I tried to do it other peoples way and winded up super confused after doing it one way for so long, so I will just put these things out with out claims, ntlite is truly for your own preference and these presets are just whats good for me, I put them out there to aid people and see if they have any inputs and suggestions of what else to remove
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CatSlobber
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Totally. I’m not here to say that you should apply any of the changes I’ve suggested. I just want to use your config as a starting point so I can make changes that suit my needs. It just so happens that Windows Backup is finicky as sh*t.
I’ll give your new config a try.
Hello to all. Im new here. Was going to make my own iso, but you done most of the work for gaming
Just wonder is this script will work on iso from microsoft itself or i rather download from that website there iso's already updated. Looking at numbers you working on slighly newer build, must be updated 21h2. Thanks
Just wonder is this script will work on iso from microsoft itself or i rather download from that website there iso's already updated. Looking at numbers you working on slighly newer build, must be updated 21h2. Thanks
You can use iso right from microsoft, i would suggest this, you have to add the three updates in the preset to update the iso fully, if you have already used ntlite to download the updates then all you have to do is change the path as on my pc the path is different, it should shout at you with error saying these updates that you want me to do, arent there when loading the preset, you just have to make them available to fully update the iso before ever installing
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the ones that are greyed out are the latest and the ones in the preset, the black ones are older and you can choose either but the ones that i have installed here are the ones for the latest updated iso, KB5007253, KB5007401, KB5007289
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Thank you, one more silly question. I was reading manual, but still not 100% sure how complete update. Do i just download, verify and enqueue updates? Or there more steps. Should i enqueue updates, cook iso and then apply your script? Sorry for silly questions, but this field is new to me
I'll post my preset here, for comparison purposes. Its conservative, all things considered. But backup and restore works there, also WiDi, SMB, Search and all the basics.
I've found that sometimes, comparing presets helps see what you removed that you shouldn't have or something you could have removed and didn't.
I could probably have removed more there, but, at this point, Removing anything significant risks breaking functionality I use or adding unwanted errors and annoyances.
EDIT: Forgot to add: I use a script based on MDL's post about adding missing packages back into Windows 10 LTSC 21. Mount the image with NTLite, close the application, have the needed files downloaded from UUPDump into my working folder for experiments, and run the script. I'll also leave it here in case anyone wants to use it.
[DISCUSSION] Windows 10 Enterprise/IoT Enterprise (N) LTSC 2021
Sorry, I thought there was an N version of IoT LTSC as well. There should be within this image, although I can't confirm at this moment....
Link with the post with the packages you'll need, also get the Wireless Display if you want it and add it and the local translation pack to folders 4 and 5
Keep in mind that NTLite mount folder is pretty consistent, but the Package path will depend on where you have the files saved. So adjust the bolded paths to whatever your system is configured to.
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CatSlobber
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I tried your GamerOS 10 preset (with Windows 11) and I could not complete the installation. There was an error during the setup phase that was unrelated to the TPM check.
I'm still in testing here, but I seemed to narrow down the dependency for Backup and Restore to something inside Components -> Networking and/or Remoting & Privacy. PhsMu may be on to something when they mentioned a possible relation to SMB dependencies...
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I've narrowed it down to Remoting and Privacy. I went and chose everything I thought was good to remove, found that Windows Backup failed, and am now backtracking through about 23 different options, just a few at a time. Unfortunately, each reinstallation via VM takes about an hour to fully test out.
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I'm finding that whatever removed component is breaking compatibility with Backup may be undocumented / unintended. None of the components in NTLite mention compatibility in any way. I fired up the Event Viewer when the backup runs and found that svchost.exe crashes with an error that is not referenced on the internet anywhere. I'm still messing around with finding which component is causing the issue.
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Nailed it down to Windows Error Reporting, Rights Management Support, Packet Monitor, and/or Diagnostics and Troubleshooting.
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It's the Windows Error Reporting service. Now I'm seeing if it's Troubleshooting support or the Telemetry Client specifically. After that, I will continue on with a regular install and see if there's anything else that breaks support for Backup.
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Components -> Windows Error Reporting Service -> Problem Reports and Solutions Control Panel Support must be kept for Windows 7 Backup and Restore to remain working. Now that I believe I've found the root cause, I will go ahead with the GamerOS preset and continue testing.
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