Solved (Win10 1903)

crypticus

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I'm working on these for weeks now. and i am close to explode since i get no solutions from anyone.


1) i need to learn how to delete internet explorer and edge. and do that without getting any error. here is my preset. it clearly gives an error 2.png also was here: https://www.ntlite.com/community/index.php?threads/ie-edge.1086/

2) windows media player removal WAS causinh rockstar games social club to doesn't install. and breaks gtaV game. they need wmp to run. i can't test it now because now windows media player removal didn't even remove wmp...

3) after removing ie, steam thought there were no internet connection.

4) onenote and windows store icons are still at startmenu 6.png

5) i did fresh install of windows, i hate host refresh since it takes same amount of time and doesn't give exact

6) need to learn what 1.png's red circled ones. because i don't understand any of it. i don't know what they do and i de

7) windows update finds and installs same update forever. without any stucking it just downloads and installs it smoothly. 4.png also was here: https://www.ntlite.com/community/index.php?threads/kb4501375-w10.1071/#post-9433

8) windows security center comes back. 5.png also was here: https://www.ntlite.com/community/index.php?threads/kb4501375-w10.1071/#post-9433

9) default softwares browser part is showing something weird. 6.png

10) ONLY HALF OF setupcomplete.cmd run. IT WAS RUNNİNG COMPLETELY WITHOUT ERRORS BEFORE. did absolutely 0 CHANGES TO MY OEM FOLDER. oem folder: https://dosya.co/4zdffti3n85a/OEM.7z.html



none of them are fixed. some of them had its own thread. and they are not fixed too. so my problems i assume never on do top of to do list? because its been couple of weeks.
 

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OK, fixed the OneNote shortcut removal, added the DLL to protected list.
WU looks happy since the new KB, MS helped there, not my doing.
Uploaded pre-release build 7057, let me know how it goes.

nuhi thanks for fixes, i tested on both w10 pro and home,

+confirmed WU is fixed at both (i hope it doesn't happen in the future since we don't know what was causing it)
-onenote icon is not gone on home (was not there on pro already)
-btw is disabling "opening apps after restart option" broken? because google chrome opened itself after restart. happened to me only 2 times in 10 restart
-ie error is fixed at both BUT

1)
at setupcomplete's second half runonce commands still doesn't run as there were still ie'e error. first half still works.
2) if internet explorer removed; after the very first restart during setup, at the first black screen which is just before windows says something like "getting ready your device" takes like 60 seconds (don't get me wrong "getting windows ready" still takes normal time, the black screen before that takes 60 seconds) normally that restart and black screen takes like 5 seconds. tested without removing ie, restart and black screen before continuing setup takes 1-5 seconds.

tried without removing internet explorer, oem folder worked fine. removal still breaks runonce?

oem and software folder for testing if u need
 
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Thanks for the feedback and continued patience.

- WU, well it was an MS bug and MS fixed it. Now was it on the full Turkish with all the same settings just not removals, didn't try.

- OneNote I cleaned the online/live removal only, forgot that images have it differently before the deployment.
Fixed that too for the next update.

- IE replicated. It was easier with your test files, will continue tomorrow, didn't manage to finish it today.

- The location in OEM zip is wrong when copied as is, the $oem$ folder.
$OEM$\$$\Scripts
should be
$OEM$\$$\Setup\Scripts

Btw why such a complication with setupcomplete.cmd?

I recommend to correct the above mentioned path and post-setup will help you better see what is being executed, only those two script calls, it doesn't touch the called scripts.
Copy it before loading the image or you risk overwriting whatever is setupcomplete used for, for example some rare delayed KBs like in Win7 days, or any script you might want to add.
 
np i manually place them so they are inside setup folder... i don't use oem folder itself. but will fix that too incase i use it in the future...

i know ntlite may overwrite, i always check my wim file via 7zip after operations, in that case i clear oem folders remount and clear setup folder. then click reset on ntlite's postsetup part to clear that page and put my scripts and files folders again for fix...

thanks for testing with my files. i am happy that it helped to replicate

i like automation, licensing and installing softwares are done without touching when i fresh install windows... i even have a tweak software that i have been developing for 5 years now. it does every tweak and software settings for me.

btw my old preset which also had wu issue still has windows update issue with new cu update
Windows 10 Version 1903 07 Toplu Güncelleştirmesi (KB4507453) - Hata 0x800f081f
i think the reason it is fixed in this preset is because you fixed something in ntlite.... (cuz only differance is internet explorer and wmp removal)
 
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IE fixed, pre-release updated, let me know how it goes.

Best would be to use Post-setup normally, let it see the script commands, and if you see any issues, let me know.
I was using your scripts like that, did not do any tricks with copying after.

Do let me know if you see any CU issue that is not there on full Windows, I'll be around.

Thanks.
 
IE fixed, pre-release updated, let me know how it goes.

Best would be to use Post-setup normally, let it see the script commands, and if you see any issues, let me know.
I was using your scripts like that, did not do any tricks with copying after.

Do let me know if you see any CU issue that is not there on full Windows, I'll be around.

Thanks.

I can confirm
*IE login error is fixed
*OEM folder is fixed
*OneNote icon is fixed
*Hung at first restart bug fixed
*WU works and installs new cu7 update, no reinstalls prompted

These tests are done on windows home single language, so i will check on 1903 home, pro and 1809 ltsc too. will report back in couple of hours.

May ask another question about what is safe to remove at system apps later... as a last question


Thank you for being so interested in these fixes, it was great 2 days full of bug fixing. helped a lot.
 
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Finished Testing..

Home Single Language: Fixed
Home: Fixed
Pro: Fixed
1809 LTSC: Fixed

And about my last question i added 2 png files showing my app edits. is it safe for normal day using work/gaming etc? are there any hardware limitations or any limitations will make problems or errors in the future? thanks. (i only install spotfiy-netflix-whatsapp etc from windoes store)
 

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ege914 BioEnrollment is only needed if you use biometric sensors like fingerprint reader in some laptops or camera's face recognition, otherwise it's safe to remove. LockApp is also safe to remove, it's the Lock Screen that you have to move with mouse cursor, like on tablets and smartphones - useless. Content Delivery Manager is responsible for pinning "sponsored" apps to Start Menu, like "Candy Crush Soda Saga" or "Disney Magic Kingdoms" and many others - i always remove it and haven't noticed any problems.
However, i don't recommend to remove "OOBENetworkCaptivePortal" and "OOBENetworkConnectionFlow" - i believe removing them can cause some issues.
 
I can confirm
*IE login error is fixed
*OEM folder is fixed
*OneNote icon is fixed
*Hung at first restart bug fixed
*WU works and installs new cu7 update, no reinstalls prompted

These tests are done on windows home single language, so i will check on 1903 home, pro and 1809 ltsc too. will report back in couple of hours.

May ask another question about what is safe to remove at system apps later... as a last question
Thanks for confirming, yey, finally.
The easy to follow list and replication is what helped the most.

Attached is what I keep, haven't noticed any issues.

Minus XboxApp...that must have returned with the latest CU.
 

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Finished testing, all editions are working fine with my preset and oem folder scripts. thank you again for all the great work and applist. and thanks to others who closely watched the thread..
 
ege914 BioEnrollment is only needed if you use biometric sensors like fingerprint reader in some laptops or camera's face recognition, otherwise it's safe to remove. LockApp is also safe to remove, it's the Lock Screen that you have to move with mouse cursor, like on tablets and smartphones - useless. Content Delivery Manager is responsible for pinning "sponsored" apps to Start Menu, like "Candy Crush Soda Saga" or "Disney Magic Kingdoms" and many others - i always remove it and haven't noticed any problems.
However, i don't recommend to remove "OOBENetworkCaptivePortal" and "OOBENetworkConnectionFlow" - i believe removing them can cause some issues.

Removing Content Delivery Manager makes the OOBE to automatically choose a local account instead of an online one.
 
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Removing Content Delivery Manager makes the OOBE to automatically choose a local account instead of an online one on the OOBE.

Windows 10 User thanks and in the past i remember i had issues with contentdeliverymanager at somewhere else in my iso. but i forgot now and i'm scared to erase it. anyone know any issues?

also do you know anything about the following messages?




Normal Questions

nuhi , Windows 10 User

1) i always add english language to my editions via abbodi's language script... and it gives me this option at boot (see lang.png)
will adding english lang packs via ntlite give me this option? or ntlite will only place them in iso for switching after installation of windows in turkish
(couldn't test because my lang files are in .esd format as abbodi's script needs. and ntlite doesn't let me add esd format to updates part.)

2) nuhi why do you keep smartscreen in your kept.png? is it really needed for anything or windows store?

3) What do you think about Accountscontrol, Win32WebviewHost, desktopappinstaller and storepurchaseapp what are they for?

4) I think apps are safe to erase but SystemApps are always breaking something as errors in following message. Am i right?
 

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Problems

nuhi

5) nuhi tested and confirmed that setupcomplete triggers twice. Because it installed ccleaner.exe 2 times which i put inside kokteyl.cmd as a call command this time (not runonce). so no software folder needed this time for testing. i understand it triggered 2 times because i can see ccleaners setup extraction runs 2 times at different times...it triggers twice before typing username. actualy it goes in to some kind of visual bug which is screen is all blue or black and waits there after first setupcomplete finishes... then it triggers again, here test it yourself please.

New OEM Folder:
6) Can't see my wireless tv. can't share my laptop's screen to my tv which i could before.. Which thing disabled it in my preset? Nothing happens on clicking to this? https://snag.gy/wEigo6.jpg nearby sharing

7)
Search taskbar doesn't work, i didn't disabled search, i know its because something i deleted in this new preset is it about cortana? Can u check the problem?

8) Can't configure uac in control center.... (see 1.png) when i click it nothing opens. Or can't login to microsoft account in modern app account settings. When clicked nothing opens. Is it because i erased accountscontrol thing in system apps?

9) System Restore Button comes up here and when clicked nothing shows up, i also deleted windows restore (i think it comes here after update) ( see r1.png and r2.png)

10) Anyway to bypass this or will never delete internetexplorer.... (see autocad.png)

11) Already integrated updates but still this shows up and installs again (see wu.png)

New preset is attached... i'm close to give up about editing system apps again just like 3 years ago.... because apps are okay to remove but system apps are hard to remove since they really break some stuff. i can't chose and have to ask every single thing since i can't understand the descriptions :/ sorry for asking too much... i even tried with old preset and some of these problems are stayed the same, (nerarby sharing and setupcomplete triggers twice) so i'm guessing even with system apps there are problems so these are not all about preset. there must be something wrong with new ntlite build too.
 

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this preset solves every issue on top comments except nearby sharing and setup complete triggers twice i couldn't find what systemapp or component controls nearby sharing. if anyone could tell it. i would be happy to use this one and not delete iexplorer or edge. i don't trust windows anymore. it breaks everytime something is deleted except normal apps. even system apps are so dangerous now.
 
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it breaks everytime something is deleted except normal apps. even system apps are so dangerous now.
Bad experiences(NOT NTLites fault) with LTSB 2016 left a very bad after taste :( It was breaking with tweaking alone and no removals.
 
Bad experiences(NOT NTLites fault) with LTSB 2016 left a very bad after taste :( It was breaking with tweaking alone and no removals.

I didnt said it was, i know it is about new windows but we all knew it was going to be harder to edit at every new windows update. But thats what ntlite is for...

I would even use 1511 ltsb but newer version of windows specially 1903 really boosts up my performance in games and render. So i have to use 1903
 
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Windows 10 User
1) i always add english language to my editions via abbodi's language script... and it gives me this option at boot (see lang.png)
will adding english lang packs via ntlite give me this option? or ntlite will only place them in iso for switching after installation of windows in turkish
(couldn't test because my lang files are in .esd format as abbodi's script needs. and ntlite doesn't let me add esd format to updates part.)

2) nuhi why do you keep smartscreen in your kept.png? is it really needed for anything or windows store?

3) What do you think about Accountscontrol, Win32WebviewHost, desktopappinstaller and storepurchaseapp what are they for?

4) I think apps are safe to erase but SystemApps are always breaking something as errors in following message. Am i right?
1) yes
2) Store, I disable it in Settings. But I would love to remove it, problem is when I tested cannot be removed for Store to work.
3) Apps prompting/using Accounts control, Web View, Store purchase. Just not sure about desktop app installer, why do they even need that, probably to proxy Win32 installers from the managed Store.
4) What following message? I showed you what I remove, I wouldn't do that if it broke something that I use.
 
1) yes
2) Store, I disable it in Settings. But I would love to remove it, problem is when I tested cannot be removed for Store to work.
3) Apps prompting/using Accounts control, Web View, Store purchase. Just not sure about desktop app installer, why do they even need that, probably to proxy Win32 installers from the managed Store.
4) What following message? I showed you what I remove, I wouldn't do that if it broke something that I use.

The following one starts with problems
 
5) nuhi tested and confirmed that setupcomplete triggers twice. Because it installed ccleaner.exe 2 times which i put inside kokteyl.cmd as a call command this time (not runonce). so no software folder needed this time for testing. i understand it triggered 2 times because i can see ccleaners setup extraction runs 2 times at different times...it triggers twice before typing username. actualy it goes in to some kind of visual bug which is screen is all blue or black and waits there after first setupcomplete finishes... then it triggers again, here test it yourself please.

New OEM Folder:
6) Can't see my wireless tv. can't share my laptop's screen to my tv which i could before.. Which thing disabled it in my preset? Nothing happens on clicking to this? https://snag.gy/wEigo6.jpg nearby sharing

7)
Search taskbar doesn't work, i didn't disabled search, i know its because something i deleted in this new preset is it about cortana? Can u check the problem?

8) Can't configure uac in control center.... (see 1.png) when i click it nothing opens. Or can't login to microsoft account in modern app account settings. When clicked nothing opens. Is it because i erased accountscontrol thing in system apps?

9) System Restore Button comes up here and when clicked nothing shows up, i also deleted windows restore (i think it comes here after update) ( see r1.png and r2.png)

10) Anyway to bypass this or will never delete internetexplorer.... (see autocad.png)

11) Already integrated updates but still this shows up and installs again (see wu.png)

New preset is attached... i'm close to give up about editing system apps again just like 3 years ago.... because apps are okay to remove but system apps are hard to remove since they really break some stuff. i can't chose and have to ask every single thing since i can't understand the descriptions :/ sorry for asking too much... i even tried with old preset and some of these problems are stayed the same, (nerarby sharing and setupcomplete triggers twice) so i'm guessing even with system apps there are problems so these are not all about preset. there must be something wrong with new ntlite build too.
5) You're doing this by rebooting in the middle of it, if you don't want it run the second time, delete it before reboot
6) Will check Nearby Sharing in a week or so, your preset doesn't look like having any obvious causes
7) It's Cortana removal, as the description states. Unfortunately MS didn't split those two properly yet.
8) It's Internet Explorer removal and only in the pre-release, fixed and reuploaded (thanks for the heads up)
9) After updates run Remove Returns tool, if that doesn't clean it, then re-remove the component, if it's not detected force-show it (ask how if unknown) and re-remove it. Will improve the Remove Returns tool detection in the near future, updates sometimes delete removal tags.
10) Check the latest pre-release if it helps, otherwise we would need to check which key Autocad checks, or keep the component.
11) Does it install only once and does not repeat? If so, that's fine, full Windows do it also sometimes, depends on many things, even Feature configuration and MS bugs.

Thanks.
 
3) Apps prompting/using Accounts control, Web View, Store purchase. Just not sure about desktop app installer, why do they even need that, probably to proxy Win32 installers from the managed Store.

I don't know if it's related but after removing some apps and when changing the default apps' settings I'm prompted to download new ones since I can no longer rum the specific things I could before. I can also search for new apps on my computer to run things but I think I don't have the required ones.
 
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5) You're doing this by rebooting in the middle of it, if you don't want it run the second time, delete it before reboot
6) Will check Nearby Sharing in a week or so, your preset doesn't look like having any obvious causes
7) It's Cortana removal, as the description states. Unfortunately MS didn't split those two properly yet.
8) It's Internet Explorer removal and only in the pre-release, fixed and reuploaded (thanks for the heads up)
9) After updates run Remove Returns tool, if that doesn't clean it, then re-remove the component, if it's not detected force-show it (ask how if unknown) and re-remove it. Will improve the Remove Returns tool detection in the near future, updates sometimes delete removal tags.
10) Check the latest pre-release if it helps, otherwise we would need to check which key Autocad checks, or keep the component.
11) Does it install only once and does not repeat? If so, that's fine, full Windows do it also sometimes, depends on many things, even Feature configuration and MS bugs.

Thanks.

5) could u tell me the suitable way to do it in my cmds?or fix it as it should used to be in the past? it wasn't running 2 times before. after u fix internetexplorer this problem started. cuz i dont want runonce to do its thing 2 times? it may be a problematic for regedit entries?
10) will check
11) only 1 time so np

nuhi
 
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