I almost never open the Event Viewer
if it was possible to remove it without causing problems I would remove it.
GamerOS Windows 10 & 11 DIY Preset
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if it was possible to remove it without causing problems I would remove it.These components are only important for those who use the Store or gamepass. For those who only use Steam for example they are irrelevant.
If your playing single player games the console experience is acceptable, but when people earn a living off of just one match your tools better be performing at its best, that's the demographic I'm offering this windows iso build too, and I want it to be easy for the casual gamer to discover competitive gaming at 240hz or 360hz and fps to match it, and man that is some good info and is exactly what I needed to hear, Ive never used the store or anything only steam
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Yes for multiplayer or competitive games the best performance is important. As I don't play these games and I only play single player I don't care too much about it. And I don't care about the Store or Xbox Game Pass either. The cost of maintaining dependencies to make them work is too high for me I remove everything that is possible related to UWP or Store.
I prefer games compiled like win32 because they will be much lighter and the performance will be better too.
I remove everything that is possible related to UWP or Store.I prefer games compiled like win32 because they will be much lighter and the performance will be better too.
But who use desktop app installer for example to install multiple apps winget use delivery optimization
Just dropping by to let people know of developments, I've been playing games on a crappy router and now all the network issues seem to be kinked out using dd-wrt, so I may have made errors and such and will be re running some tests stay tuned for the next gamerOS preset, it shouldn't take long as I've learned a lot over the past year with NTlite and should be much quicker, I'm left to assume that many network tweaks I was attempting wasn't even done in a good environment, I noticed the other one the services was from stripped iso already so here is 131 services, and 420 Settings and 850+ not required items removed first post has been updated with the fixed version of GamerOS WinVer
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Tommy_L33T Will be cool if you put some changelog, so we can see the changes in the preset and what did you add to the preset
TheChester
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I've pretty much been messing with this same stuff for about 2 years now. Did a lot of manually. If you are not sure about a service Microsoft has a program called Autoruns. It's part of the sysinternals package. If you open that as admin and when you disable a service with autoruns it leaves an entry in the registry in HKLM/System/CurrentControlSet/Services/ Theres the list of all your services and any service you disable Autoruns will add and DWord "AutorunsDisabled" and the value is what the service was set to. If you go to the start DWord that's where you enable or disable a service. 0 is boot, 1 is Automatic, 2 is Automatic Delayed, 3 is Manual, 4 is Disabled. So usually what'll do is setup a windows install usb. I'll go through and disable a couple of things in autoruns. then if I get one that causes the system to not boot you can boot into the windows usb. At the first window hit shift f10. type in regedit. It'll show you the X:\ which is the usb but if you go up to File menu in the regeditor, and click on load hive. Then navigate to your C:\Windows\System32\Config\System and It'll ask you what to name it...just use something random that isn't the the same as the other hives in regedit. Then Place it anywhere. I usually us HKey_Users. Drop that down and open up the hive you loaded and navigate to CurrentControlSet\Services\ and you can look do search for Autoruns. You'll be able to easily find the services you disabled and know what they were set to. Alot of the times I'll spam the F3 key and look for the AutorunsDisabled thats set to 0. Usually those are the most important ones that'll stop windows from booting. Also if your in Services.msc and open up a service. Theres a tab Dependencies. The bottom box is pretty imporant. If there's anything there. Than disabling that service will prevent the ones in the bottom box from opening. Just some things I've learned. I now do a lot of "optimizing" for my buddies. They bitch about their pcs. I remote in with Teamviewer. Show them they have 300 processes running and that they don't need obs, streamlabs, geforce experience and they don't need every game launcher running all the time. I mean you can really only play one game at a time haha.
TheChester
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Yea...I mean right now the consoles are worth it. The cheap console is rated at 1440p/120hz. That's nutty for a $300msrp system. I can't wait for the DirectStorage API to implemented in the PC universe. It's gonna be a game changer. I learned a lot of this stuff by trial and error. I haven't gamed in about 10 years. I happened to get laid off right about the end of season 0 when Modern Warfare 2019 came out. I didn't even know about it but I stumbled across Wildcat and Marcel and them and it looked like a blast. Well my pc was a Athlon 760k box I setup a couple years before that as like a Media center. And maybe about a year before MW came out I found a Asus RX580 for $130 on ebay. Picked up a HyperX 212 cooler from Best buy. It was one of those flat half height horizontal cases so it fit in the TV stand. Well took the top panel off..Cut the back off where the cuz the case only fit half height pci cards and we started gaming....well I've been a console pleeb as a kiddie. I loaded in my first map and I couldn't even run straight haha. I had a 75hz HP office monitor and fps was around 50-80 but pretty unstable as the cpu was just a 2 core 4 thread 3.8ghz boost up to 4.1ghz haha. I had to run a higher render resolution to slow the gpu down to help the cpu keep pace. So after a crash course in overclocking I was able to get that bad little cpu to 4.7ghz all core. My performance was better but not great. Being at 100% CPU load playing the game I started thinking that any bit of utilization I could lower from windows could go back to the game. So after months of testing and tweaking and reinstalling and this and that I was able to get windows the the same you have it. At 1080p Normal Textures I held a sold 80-90 fps. It really does make a difference if you're limited like that. But my 5800x and 6900xt that I converted to a custom water loop that I have a radiator that uses 2 200mm fans. I can now play MW at 1440p Ultra textures with a 288 fps average. At 1080p I can easily crush 350-400 fps in MW. But between what I learned from pushing that little 760k I'm now 25th on 3dMark's Timespy out of 30000 entries for my CPU and GPU. That really surprised me and it's awesome braggin right's with the boys in chat haha.
Here's my entry on 3dmark. When I posted it I was 17th but that was 3 weeks ago and I just checked it today and I'm down to 25th. Theres 30,000 other entries for my specific class. There's guys that run dual gpus and such. They get nutty scores. I can probably get some more out of mine my cpu I didn't really dial it in. I kinda just got it in a good spot quick and then messedwith the gpu and got those scores. But when you gotta tweak each core at a time and you got 16 of them it takes a lot of time and rebooting and crashing and haha. I'll never ever ever mess with OC ram again. I'll spend the extra money to get the high speed low latency kit. It's worth every penny.
Yes but again this is only relevant for those who use
But I have to agree that for a more generic preset for games this junk is needed because of games that only exist in the Store (Microsoft games) or even to use the Xbox Game Pass.
thanks for giving me some input thechester and many thanks go out to AeonX, just for making me think outside the box, I definitely did not intend this os for microsoft games and as such have uploaded my latest preset meant for games from steam, if anything more can be removed without effecting this basic functionality of windows I will update the preset, many thanks go out to the creators of ntlite, and all of the other people in the tech industry space who helped in the creation of GamerOS Windows Version, it has been one hell of a journey
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on services like this "DevicePickerUserSvc_29d1e" the "29d1e" is a per user ident, i have seen 2 instances of the service but with different idents. disabling the parent service "DevicePickerUserSvc" is enough. that is one of what i call "those bastard services" because you cant disable them from Services , you have to disable the parent from the registry. going to be having a closer look at them when i reinstall ltsc.
, you have to disable the parent from the registry. going to be having a closer look at them when i reinstall ltsc.
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yeah that is true those id's change if its in the preset then its because i used the switch to have ntlite show everything thats been removed and created presets with that and copied the services section, even reinstalling windows changes them, ive kept the same service section from the org, yes that is the best way and only way to disable those services with id's is to disable the one without the id, if you disable just the one with id it just gets re enabled and gets new id, im wondering what do people think so far well playing games i've come to think about this as the best windows 10 gaming experiance that ive had, could use some network settings and such but alas i never slide around and feel like im skating on ice in cs go with this created iso, and just going about using the os like i normally would i have not ran into a road block yet
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The most useful tweak is lowering the MTU to prevent packet fragmentation. If you're only talking to local LAN, enabling jumbo packets improves peer-to-peer file transfer but it's useless for the outside world. Fragmentation adds latency or in some cases blocks legitimate traffic.
Windows has defaults to enable proper MTU discovery (sizing), but in the real world upstream routers, firewalls and even your ISP play stupid NAT'ing games and will sometimes "black hole" ICMP traffic. You might never figure out which one is doing it. If you don't resize the MTU on your box, it'll fragment somewhere upstream of you anyway.
Do the usual ping -f -l [size] trick for a given set of major websites (or gaming servers). You can't give a stock recommendation, it has to be for your specific upstream target. Don't forget take the packet size and add 20 bytes overhead. They're tools to do this live (TCP Optimizer), so you don't have to muck the registry. It won't be faster, but less chance of silently dropped packets which are worse on gamers.
garlin this makes sense, and thank for that info, what do you think about tcp optimizer, is it good to just select optimized or leave it default, I notice a difference for only so long and then its back to them running around firing 10 bullets in my direction and magically only registering headshots before i can even respond, or they have literally blitz around the corner and pumped me with 5 shots well firing 20 and yet 5 bullets haven't even left my weapon yet, I play cs go and have been driven crazy and insane trying to configure my router then the other settings within the computer there is so many suggestions from tonnes of different people, but they all suggest little different things, I could post here everything I have if that could help Im trying to make a powershell script that changes them in secs, but idk if im being effected by other factors or is it actually just the matter of which settings to set, because I have been able to get it to be amazing and yet alas im just a hobbyist and don't truly know what i did