How to remove Cortana (beta) app from Windows 10 May 2020 (20H1) update?

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SM03

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Hello,
Is there any way to remove /disable the new 'CORTANA (BETA)' app that's present in the Windows 10 May 2020 (20H1) update ISO without disabling the 'Shell Search' functionality?

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I don't use CORTANA so need to remove that, & I know that CORTANA APP is locked by the Shell Search compatibility feature, but I don't wanna disable that 'Shell Search' as that 'd disable the searching functionality in START (tried & tested)

If there is any way to remove the app without disabling the ShellSearch, suggest me that, if not, then requesting nuhi to take a look in this case & if possible do something to make this happen.
 
pmikep said:
I really don't want to get involved in this discussion, but SM03, please note that he said that he was NOT a native English speaker. On the assumption that you are (since you used the word "ain't" in a previous post), and since you acknowledged that "we express ourself [sic] by words only," I suggest that it is harder for non-native speakers to understand you when you use abbreviations like "bcz," "ppl," and misspell "ourselves." (And use "ain't.")

As a native English speaker myself who is trying to learn español, I know from experience that when my Spanish acquaintances misspell a Spanish word in a text to me, it makes it much harder for me to understand them. (Because I do not have enough knowledge of their language to apply mental Error Correction.) Now that I have been trying to learn Spanish, I have found myself choosing my English words more carefully in international forums like this one (includes trying to avoid idioms and colloquialisms) so that non-native speakers can better understand me.

Admittedly, it requires more time to craft a careful message. (For example, 20 minutes for this one.) But if I want to increase the probability of being understood, I need to try to ensure that the message that I transmit is as near error free as I can make it.
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Hey pmikep

That was really a silly spelling mistake, my bad. And while I do agree with you POV (point of view) about the understanding of a foreign language, but I think those abbreviations (that I used) are very common nowadays so didn't think much before use them.

And I didn't say all that for any of my interest, I advised him for his own benefits so that his message can easily be readable & understandable for everyone else so that he can get the help that he is seeking for from this forum.

Thanks for your concern anyway.
 
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Windows 10 User said:
I think my english is understandable enough and I explained my problem and the solution just fine. If I didn't use other tools like MSMG ToolKit I wouldn't be able to remove some things NTLite's free version doesn't let me to. Nuhi doesn't reply me not because of my english or because I also use other tools but simply because he doesn't want to because there were other users who wrote worse english than I and he replied them.

I thought you also had the "winver" and broken Start Menu icons problems and you were also unable to remove just the Cortana app.

What do NTLite's Privacy-related settings and the OOBE have to do with these prompts and the Start Menu Pictures folder shortcut problem?
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Let's just not talk about anything about your English or why Nuhi doesn't reply you. Whatever I wrote earlier was my thought & presumptions, I never said or claimed anything to be true, and I might be wrong as well. It is entirely your & his (Nuhi) matter.

I never have any problem of breaking the start menu or any icon issue, the search issue (WINVER) only occurred when I remove the Cortana under compatibility, nothing else.

And earlier, you asked me & share the link of this prompt & I already told that I never had that issue either, still, by my understanding, I believe that's something related to the post-setup process so I advised you to set everything up under the privacy & OOBE as many post-setup options can be configured from there.

Rest is up to you to find & solve. You know what, 90% of issues & queries which I've had earlier, I solved /found most of them by myself via continuous & rigorously testing. And of course, there is the internet to help you in every aspect.

And my Windows image is nearly in 95%-98% auto-pilot mode (as per my need & requirement) in current days, after investing a good amount of time (Nearly a year or even more) of learning & experimenting with the FREE version of NTLite along with many registry tweaks.
 
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Clanger said:
tight git.
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Speak english.

Clanger said:
ppl v people, 3 letters vs 6 letters, wow, what a saving. if you were typing supercalifragilisticexpialidocious or Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch(Welsh is a phlegm based language) i could understand.
i make smelling mistakes on porpoise.

pmikep bona to vada your dolly old eek again. have fun with that one :p
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Wtf? And then it's my fault for not speaking proper english.

SM03 said:
Hey pmikep

That was really a silly spelling mistake, my bad. And while I do agree with you POV (point of view) about the understanding of a foreign language, but I think those abbreviations (that I used) are very common nowadays so didn't think much before use them.

And I didn't say all that for any of my interest, I advised him for his own benefits so that his message can easily be readable & understandable for everyone else so that he can get the help that he is seeking for from this forum.

Thanks for your concern anyway.
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I think I made myself understood. If you complain about me, try to understand what Clanger says.

SM03 said:
Let's just not talk about anything about your English or why Nuhi doesn't reply you. Whatever I wrote earlier was my thought & presumptions, I never said or claimed anything to be true, and I might be wrong as well. It is entirely your & his (Nuhi) matter.

I never have any problem of breaking the start menu or any icon issue, the search issue (WINVER) only occurred when I remove the Cortana under compatibility, nothing else.

And earlier, you asked me & share the link of this prompt & I already told that I never had that issue either, still, by my understanding, I believe that's something related to the post-setup process so I advised you to set everything up under the privacy & OOBE as many post-setup options can be configured from there.

Rest is up to you to find & solve. You know what, 90% of issues & queries which I've had earlier, I solved /found most of them by myself via continuous & rigorously testing. And of course, there is the internet to help you in every aspect.

And my Windows image is nearly in 95%-98% auto-pilot mode (as per my need & requirement) in current days, after investing a good amount of time (Nearly a year or even more) of learning & experimenting with the FREE version of NTLite along with many registry tweaks.
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Well, nuhi doesn't reply you either.

But I was precisely talking about that ("winver") problem (as well as others)! First you say you don't have it and afterwards you say you do!

How can it be related to the post-setup process if I didn't even mess with its settings and I even add it with an untouched image?

I lost more than 3 years with daily tests.

Clanger said:
SM03 he practically double posts verbatim at the mdl official thread.
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What are you talking about?
 
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Windows 10 User said:
Thanks, but no thanks.
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NTLite free allows you to remove all Windows Apps and System Apps, disable features and services including hidden ones. The rest at least most can be disabled with tweaks. So I think there is no need to use other tools.

Anyway I think paying for the license would be worth it for you since you like to remove several things and like to always use the latest version of Windows 10. At Christmas and New Year there is always a good discount and the price is quite affordable :)
 
Clanger said:
he's been here for 3 rounds of those so what makes you think he will start now.
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I believe there is always time to change your mind :) better late than never :p

And a time of experience helps to realize what is best for yourself, at least for those who have common sense.
 
AeonX said:
I believe there is always time to change your mind :) better late than never :p

And a time of experience helps to realize what is best for yourself, at least for those who have common sense.
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wont happen. an he'll carry on like a 1 legged cat trying to bury a turd.
 
AeonX said:
NTLite free allows you to remove all Windows Apps and System Apps, disable features and services including hidden ones. The rest at least most can be disabled with tweaks. So I think there is no need to use other tools.

Anyway I think paying for the license would be worth it for you since you like to remove several things and like to always use the latest version of Windows 10. At Christmas and New Year there is always a good discount and the price is quite affordable :)
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What about the immersivecontrolpanel, Shell Services, ShellExperienceHost and SmartScreen System Apps, not to mention First Logon Animation, Game Explorer, Speech Recognition, CEIP_SQM, Face Recognition, Location Service, Picture Password, Pin Enrollment, Unified Telemetry Client, Windows Error Reporting, Windows Insider Hub, Security Center, Map Control, One Drive, Retail Demo Content, Setting Sync, Skype ORTC, Windows Mixed Reality and Cortana (app) Apps?
 
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Windows 10 User said:
What about the immersivecontrolpanel, Shell Services and SmartScreen System Apps, not to mention First Logon Animation, Game Explorer, Speech Recognition, CEIP_SQM, Face Recognition, Location Service, Picture Password, Pin Enrollment, Unified Telemetry Client, Windows Error Reporting, Windows Insider Hub, Security Center, Map Control, One Drive, Retail Demo Content, Setting Sync, Skype ORTC, Windows Mixed Reality
and Cortana (app)?
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If you have something (or many things) to ask, I'd suggest you to kindly open your separate OP and add /ask all of your questions & queries there. Don't clutter this OP with irrelevant subjects of yours, stay on topic instead.
 
AeonX said:
NTLite free allows you to remove all Windows Apps and System Apps, disable features and services including hidden ones. The rest at least most can be disabled with tweaks. So I think there is no need to use other tools.
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Quite true, I can second on that from my experience. Ntlite free version is even powerful enough to de-bloat the OS & customize mostly, for other paid versions, there are reg tweaks, i.e. as the free version doesn't remove OD fully so I use my own way to remove that completely from the OS image.
 
we mixed and matched tools before nuhi came back into the fold, what a pain in the arse that was. never had a good build doing it that way, nothing but headaches and messy gui's, nuhi knows how to to a gui, nLite proved that.
 
talking about nuhi ,

He is definitely one of the rare admin & dev that I've seen rarely, he might be late in reply, but he read all of the comments/messages & reply to them all, once even I forgot about my own question which he tracked & replied months later. Also, he's very patience & always response nicely & positively, which is rare nowadays.
 
Windows 10 User said:
What about the immersivecontrolpanel, Shell Services and SmartScreen System Apps, not to mention First Logon Animation, Game Explorer, Speech Recognition, CEIP_SQM, Face Recognition, Location Service, Picture Password, Pin Enrollment, Unified Telemetry Client, Windows Error Reporting, Windows Insider Hub, Security Center, Map Control, One Drive, Retail Demo Content, Setting Sync, Skype ORTC, Windows Mixed Reality
and Cortana (app)?
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good god man is there anything else??? you really take the wee.
 
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Windows 10 User said:
What about the immersivecontrolpanel, Shell Services and SmartScreen System Apps, not to mention First Logon Animation, Game Explorer, Speech Recognition, CEIP_SQM, Face Recognition, Location Service, Picture Password, Pin Enrollment, Unified Telemetry Client, Windows Error Reporting, Windows Insider Hub, Security Center, Map Control, One Drive, Retail Demo Content, Setting Sync, Skype ORTC, Windows Mixed Reality
and Cortana (app)?
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Cortana app will be fixed just wait and stay tuned for new versions of NTLite. However you can remove it with Powershell or Dism.
immersivecontrolpanel cannot be removed by NTLite.

What is Shell Services? Is this new in version 2004?

SmartScreen can be deactivated with tweaks and group policy and if that is not enough to prevent the app from running you can still disable the provisioning of this system app.

Everything else does not affect the performance of the PC and only reduces the size of the image which is not much if you keep Windows Update those that affect can be disabled with tweaks. The exception to that may be the Unified Telemetry Client about this I can't say for sure.

But as I said if you mind removing so many components why not pay for NTLite? It is the best tool for this since it deeply removes components like no other tool and still supports new versions of Windows 10 before the other tools. It is better to remove drivers for example allowing you to choose the drivers individually. The other tools are much slower to remove and always leave leftover components in the system or remove them in the wrong way. NTLite has its problems as well but it has evolved a lot over time.

Anyway the choice is yours, I'm just pointing out the pros and cons. You can only use free tools but this will require more knowledge and you will have more work and inconvenience.
 
SM03 said:
Hey, as you're saying this, so just want to know whether the dev has confirmed this from his side? Have you talked to him regarding this matter recently?
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No, I didn't speak to nuhi, but surely a problem like this should be fixed.
 
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