Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 On 7G HP Pavilion Laptop - Need Suggestions/Thoughts/etc!
Using NTLITE, my goal is to install Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 onto an HP Pavilion Laptop! Laptop Specs are;
Product Name: HP Pavilion Laptop 15-cs3147tx
Processor Name: Intel (R) Core (TM) i7-1065G7 [email protected]
If the need be, I can provide other specs!
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I have been spending almost 10 days trying to put a clean Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 image onto a USB, and plugging it in to the HP, and then getting the usual errors:
"Things not recognized"
"Bootsect.exe errros"
"Black Screen"
"Windows Startup Screen Freezing"
I already have updated the BIOS through HP's website.
I have the BIOS set to "Secure Boot disabled", Legacy enabled" and the UEFI and Legacy/CFM Boot order for USB/CD/DVD priority!
Everything I tried met with failure, and I have gone through over a hundred hours worth of watching YT videos and reading forums and articles on this Great Mystery!
Then, on a lark, yesterday I used Rufus, the Gigabyte USB Installation Tool (GUIT) to mount a clean Windows 10 Home ISO onto a random USB, using a USB 2.0 port, and plugged the installer USB into the HP laptop, and within 12 seconds of turning it on, I was looking at the beautiful installation screen... to install Windows 10 onto Windows 10!!!
So, my present thought is; there is only one problem here, and it isn't any of the following: that my USB sticks are faulty or the wrong brand or capacity, or my USB ports, or the tools I'd been using, or anything else I had been following, including talk of different motherboards, GPT/MBR Partitions, Ryzen, AMD, Intel, Kaby Lake, Sky Lake, makes and models, 7th, 8th or 9th generation processors!
So... WHAT... on that Windows 10 Home ISO image... makes the HP Laptop accept the USB Install within 12 seconds?
All I used was Rufus, the Gigabyte USB Installation Tool (GUIT) and the Windows 10 ISO, a USB 2.0 port and a beat up old NTFS-formatted USB I had laying around!
If anyone experiencing this can put any clean Win10 image on a USB and try this on their installed-Win10 OS, and go right into the Install Screen without a problem, then it must be the image, and not anything else, right?
And my question is, "What items on the Windows 10 ISO do I need to extract and incorporate into the Windows 7 ISO to get the same results?"
NTLite can do it. NTLite is the Tool, and I am the Mechanic, and the Win10 and Win7 images are the two vehicles, but I need suggestions on what I need to remove from Win10 and place into Win7 to get it accepted by the Indy500 (the new gen processors)!
I suspect that I have to deal with the Windows 7 boot.wim and install.wim/esd files, and that logic dictates I cannibalize stuff from the Windows 10 boot.wim and install.wim/esd files and place them into their related Windows 7 files... but which files need to be brought over!
Also, logic dictates I need to transfer a lot of drivers into the Windows 7 image to have basic functionality to do post installs of other drivers.
I will figure this out, but the main intention of my post is that if everything I had been doing is successful on a Win10 ISO image, then all of my failures were because I was focusing on the wrong troubleshooting areas, and not the ISO images themselves!
If the technique works with a Win10 image, on any Windows OS, and any i7/8/9 Processor, then I am concluding that any Win7 image just needs to be slip streamed with the things from the Win10 image, and the install should provide excellent results!
I am new to this, so I welcome any suggestions and starting points to focus on!
My next step is to do a full comparison of the contents of the boot.wim and install.wim files for both images, and use NTLite to slipstream and test my operations on the HP laptop!
I welcome any feed back and I apologize if my post is lengthy, or out of the terms of use for this forum! It's simply that I have no hair remaining on my head, and this recent discovery really has me excited!
Some people like classic Chevy and Classic Win7. They should not be forced to run modern cars and modern Win10, full of bloat and nosy "telemetry", when the classics run better and cleaner! Just my view, is all!
Anyway, thanks for this!
Using NTLITE, my goal is to install Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 onto an HP Pavilion Laptop! Laptop Specs are;
Product Name: HP Pavilion Laptop 15-cs3147tx
Processor Name: Intel (R) Core (TM) i7-1065G7 [email protected]
If the need be, I can provide other specs!
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I have been spending almost 10 days trying to put a clean Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 image onto a USB, and plugging it in to the HP, and then getting the usual errors:
"Things not recognized"
"Bootsect.exe errros"
"Black Screen"
"Windows Startup Screen Freezing"
I already have updated the BIOS through HP's website.
I have the BIOS set to "Secure Boot disabled", Legacy enabled" and the UEFI and Legacy/CFM Boot order for USB/CD/DVD priority!
Everything I tried met with failure, and I have gone through over a hundred hours worth of watching YT videos and reading forums and articles on this Great Mystery!
Then, on a lark, yesterday I used Rufus, the Gigabyte USB Installation Tool (GUIT) to mount a clean Windows 10 Home ISO onto a random USB, using a USB 2.0 port, and plugged the installer USB into the HP laptop, and within 12 seconds of turning it on, I was looking at the beautiful installation screen... to install Windows 10 onto Windows 10!!!
So, my present thought is; there is only one problem here, and it isn't any of the following: that my USB sticks are faulty or the wrong brand or capacity, or my USB ports, or the tools I'd been using, or anything else I had been following, including talk of different motherboards, GPT/MBR Partitions, Ryzen, AMD, Intel, Kaby Lake, Sky Lake, makes and models, 7th, 8th or 9th generation processors!
So... WHAT... on that Windows 10 Home ISO image... makes the HP Laptop accept the USB Install within 12 seconds?
All I used was Rufus, the Gigabyte USB Installation Tool (GUIT) and the Windows 10 ISO, a USB 2.0 port and a beat up old NTFS-formatted USB I had laying around!
If anyone experiencing this can put any clean Win10 image on a USB and try this on their installed-Win10 OS, and go right into the Install Screen without a problem, then it must be the image, and not anything else, right?
And my question is, "What items on the Windows 10 ISO do I need to extract and incorporate into the Windows 7 ISO to get the same results?"
NTLite can do it. NTLite is the Tool, and I am the Mechanic, and the Win10 and Win7 images are the two vehicles, but I need suggestions on what I need to remove from Win10 and place into Win7 to get it accepted by the Indy500 (the new gen processors)!
I suspect that I have to deal with the Windows 7 boot.wim and install.wim/esd files, and that logic dictates I cannibalize stuff from the Windows 10 boot.wim and install.wim/esd files and place them into their related Windows 7 files... but which files need to be brought over!
Also, logic dictates I need to transfer a lot of drivers into the Windows 7 image to have basic functionality to do post installs of other drivers.
I will figure this out, but the main intention of my post is that if everything I had been doing is successful on a Win10 ISO image, then all of my failures were because I was focusing on the wrong troubleshooting areas, and not the ISO images themselves!
If the technique works with a Win10 image, on any Windows OS, and any i7/8/9 Processor, then I am concluding that any Win7 image just needs to be slip streamed with the things from the Win10 image, and the install should provide excellent results!
I am new to this, so I welcome any suggestions and starting points to focus on!
My next step is to do a full comparison of the contents of the boot.wim and install.wim files for both images, and use NTLite to slipstream and test my operations on the HP laptop!
I welcome any feed back and I apologize if my post is lengthy, or out of the terms of use for this forum! It's simply that I have no hair remaining on my head, and this recent discovery really has me excited!
Some people like classic Chevy and Classic Win7. They should not be forced to run modern cars and modern Win10, full of bloat and nosy "telemetry", when the classics run better and cleaner! Just my view, is all!
Anyway, thanks for this!
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