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Young Free

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I've run into a problem trying to do an in-place install from the ISO I created. (Why am I doing it this way? Because VMs are unable to run Win 11, and since last week I have been unable to get a bootable USB to work. I've tried both Win 10 and 11, different USB sticks, you name it, but the only thing that works anymore is the Media Creation Tool, which obviously doesn't help with an NTLite install. Someone else on the forum had the identical problem in mid-Sep but I can't find it now. So my only recourse is to try to use a different drive and then launch an install from the ISO there.)

Anyway, it just failed, rolling back the changes on me, apparently the "data migration failed" due to a background process running (?). The ISO in question was actually just a test with barely any changes and I was able to do the same thing on the deployed system just now so I don't think it had anything to do with removing something vital (just useless bloat in this case like Bing Weather).

But something doesn't look right. When I boot into Win 10, I can see the C drive, but not the other drive, which Win 11 is installed on, but when I boot into Win 11, I can see the C drive and also the drive which has Win 10, which seems weird. Is that normal? Should I have "kept nothing" when prompted, instead of keeping files? I was worried that would also wipe the Win 10 drive. Anyone have any suggestions or ideas?
 
Let's break this into a few questions:

1. Was your first plan to do a clean W11 wipe? This failed because you weren't sure after testing 11 in a VM (which VM?)
2. You created several USB boot images, using what tools? Is your system UEFI? SecureBoot?
3. In-place upgrade failed and now you have messed up volumes. If you could do a clean install, would you care about keeping the data?
4. After fixing the first 2 questions, we can worry about your removals (preset).
 
Thanks for the quick reply.
1. Yes normally I'd do a clean wipe (with diskpart in setup, but as I say using a USB doesn't seem to be possible anymore) but I was afraid of losing the Win 10 on the other disk. I don't care about the data itself. Maybe when I chose that option (keep files) some things were still running in the background and interfered?
2. I tried several tools like Rufus (with non-secure boot option) and UNetbootin, with both Win 10 and 11. Yes to secure boot (with 11), UEFI. Until last week, the identical ISOs (I had them saved) worked fine.
3. I'm not sure the volumes are messed up, I can boot into (and use) both fine. But I don't understand why I can see the other disk from the Win 11 boot, and not the other way around.
 
Does your system pass the current W11 HW requirements? Do you need to enable both/either bypasses?
Maybe your UEFI settings are messed up. Is it OK to reset it?

Do you need any drivers to see either disk?
 
just to add in, sometime i do have what appears to be a missing drive, after a fresh install, but it becomes easily recoverable in device manager.
 
garlin said:
Does your system pass the current W11 HW requirements? Do you need to enable both/either bypasses?
Maybe your UEFI settings are messed up. Is it OK to reset it?

Do you need any drivers to see either disk?
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Of course, I'm on Win 11 right now :). No problem installing with Media Creation Tool. I've checked and double-checked my BIOS. It's only with the bootable USB that everything falls apart. I installed and activated Win 11 last week just for fun, and since then no USB boot has worked. And as I say, I've tried with the same ISOs I've used with Rufus before with no trouble.

garlin said:
W11 works fine in VMware using the bypasses. You do have the current NTLite right?
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I can't get anything to load in there, the Play button is just blanked out. Maybe you're on a commercial version? And yes to latest, but it's no different with the bare ISO directly from Microsoft.
Taosd said:
just to add in, sometime i do have what appears to be a missing drive, after a fresh install, but it becomes easily recoverable in device manager.
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Are you saying that with a dual boot, I should see the other drive? I was alarmed at first, but then I thought it made sense, since the other OS isn't a part of this boot. I'm not sure which way is normal, to see it there or not.
 
Ok I'll look at that and try VM again, but VMWare wasn't letting me see the settings at all, the hardware configuration box was just coming up blank. I don't know what I'm going to do for the actual install though since I can't use USB ("setup cannot continue due to a corrupted installation file") and the ISO setup fails, at least in that attempt.
 
garlin said:
If you're on W11, the system doesn't need a bypass. For the VM, read this article:
https://www.ntlite.com/community/in...cureboot-bypass-in-settings-v2-3-0-8394.2464/
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That worked! :D

Also, installing in-place from the ISO worked just now. Two thoughts on why it failed yesterday: Possibly I had mounted it, rather than just opening in Explorer, and I don't think I ran setup as administrator.

Question: should I first uninstall the chipset drivers (which still seem to be here in an AMD folder even though I had chosen "keep nothing") and the graphics (with DDU)?
 
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As for the drivers, that's up to you. W11's next rollup with include the AMD fixes, and gamers will ALWAYS tell you to run DDU...
Priority is make sure you got a dependable image.
 
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