Win 7 or 10 for Game Streaming

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Syc0Maniac

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I am a streamer and have been having problems with my system while streaming. I originally had an i7 6700k, 980 Ti, 16gb DDR4, OCZ RD400 NVME M.2 and as soon as I would start OBS to stream in Win 10, I would max out CPU to 100% so I decided to upgrade my system to Ryzen 7 1800x with same components and tested again and STILL 100% CPU usage as soon as I start streaming... I would like to know what you would recommend PLEASE. I was told that I can go to Win 7 but some of my items are not compatible so if I stay with 10, I NEED to super slim it down so it is not so resource heavy.

I would appreciate your input as to what I can take out of Win 7 or 10 to make it a lighter build and not eat up the resources and still use my items. I have downloaded the Asus EZ installer that is SUPPOSED to place the USB drivers into ISO but it fails when I get to ~77% every time. I have all of the drivers downloaded and also have NTLite. I just need to figure out if I go with 7, how to get all of my things to work on the OS properly or if I stay with 10 Pro, what needs to go in order to reduce the CPU usage of this hog!

Thank you VERY much!!

Items I currently use:

Ryzen 7 1800x AM4 CPU
Asus ROG Crosshair VI Hero
Toshiba OCZ RD400 NVME M.2 SSD
Corsair Vengeance DDR4
Nvidia GTX 980 Ti GPU
G.Skill RIPJAWS KM780R MX Keyboard
Logitech Proteus G502 RGB Mouse
Logitech C920 Pro WebCam
Elgato Stream Deck
MSI Optix G27C2 27" 1080P Monitor
LG 29UB55-B Black 29" UW IPS 1080P Monitor
 
That was quick :). Ryzen has chipset drivers - Chipset-17.30. The gpu must have a w7 driver. The only area i can see a problem with is installing w7 on your ssd. Shrinking w7 is easier than w10 and it is more tolerant of removals and can be shrunk more than w10.
 
Clanger said:
That was quick :). Ryzen has chipset drivers - Chipset-17.30. The gpu must have a w7 driver. The only area i can see a problem with is installing w7 on your ssd. Shrinking w7 is easier than w10 and it is more tolerant of removals and can be shrunk more than w10.
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Yea, I have read that the USB and NVME SSD drivers are a PITA to get to work for setup. I used NTLite and some OS (I forget which W7 version) but it would not let me load onto NVME but I could on a reg SSD drive BUT after install, USB devices wouldn't work so I couldn't get past the welcome setup.. LOL..

I have tried to use the programs that "load" the hotfixes and USB drivers into ISO but they never seem to work either.. }:/
 
Im an AMD user, slipstreaming the usb3 drivers is easy. Use the 17.30 package, the 17.40 has some drivers missing that 17.30 has. You have to slipstream the drivers into the boot wim and install wim. I have read that w7 on Ryzen is faster than w10.
 
Clanger said:
Im an AMD user, slipstreaming the usb3 drivers is easy. Use the 17.30 package, the 17.40 has some drivers missing that 17.30 has. You have to slipstream the drivers into the boot wim and install wim. I have read that w7 on Ryzen is faster than w10.
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I guess that is what I am not good at.. LOL I have been loading the ISO. No clue about wim process :(
 
Attached usb3 drivers. Open the zip and you see what you need. The actual driver must be inside an x64 folder because the inf file tells the os thats where it is.
Extract the ISO contents to a folder. Run NTLite and tell it where the folder is. Load your chosen edition. Got to the Drivers section and load a Multiple Driver Folder option. You may have an option on the Apply page to slipstream the drivers into multiple wim files. Make sure you add them to Microsoft Windows Setup, Setup, not PE. Save changes and unload. Test install. To be honest i always install w7 and w10 using usb2 ports and its fast enough and doesnt require slipstreaming drivers, unless you need those poxy xhci ones which cause the trouble installing on later intel chipsets.
 

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There are presets here you may find helpful. :)
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I am totally new to all of this so I do not know what to look for OR how to "dig deep" into the ISO so it takes me some time. I am an engineer so I CAN design things BUT in a different genre. LOL ;)
 
Use the w7 stage 2 advanced preset, it will reduce the installation size. Gaming and streaming requires a lot of networking and other stuff so i suggest you also disable services 1 at a time on a running system until something breaks. My minimum requirements are for a working os without networking just to run audio and video stuff. Hopefully gamers and streamers may share their presets with you. :)
 
You will also need to slipstream the nvme drivers into both wims. KB3125574 includes ms nvme drivers but you may be better off using whatever drivers toshiba has or recommends. If you cant install onto nvme, w7 is a no go.
 
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You will also need to slipstream the nvme drivers into both wims. KB3125574 includes ms nvme drivers but you may be better off using whatever drivers toshiba has or recommends. If you cant install onto nvme, w7 is a no go.
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Yea, I was using the NVME driver but not sure I was doing it properly.. I loaded the driver, the NVME was shown BUT, it would not let me install win onto it. Was giving me an error saying something that make sure the drive is supported in the bios or something like that.. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Nip over to Fernandos at winraid for tips and advice on on nvme drivers. Some motherboards dont have an nvme boot option and would need a modded bios, but i cant see that being the case with your board, check the boards web page and manual for nvme booting.
 
Clanger said:
Nip over to Fernandos at winraid for tips and advice on on nvme drivers. Some motherboards dont have an nvme boot option and would need a modded bios, but i cant see that being the case with your board, check the boards web page and manual for nvme booting.
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I am on it now with win10 :( using NVME only. Or are you saying as far as an option for something specific in the bios?
 

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If your using it now then good. I would still pop over to win-raid for nvme driver/w7 advice.
 
Clanger said:
Link and search results.
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The Link was followed before BUT, I don't think I was inserting the drivers properly or something. Maybe something was not set properly in the bios? I had sooooooooooo many pages open that was describing soo many different ways to do it.. Some were command line at the install screen and so on. I remember something saying about UEFI issues and such. I tried for a few days and ended up confused and quit trying :( I am at the point now trying to figure out what makes win7 sooo much better? I will then also have to figure out how to get my stream deck to work in win7 as it is only supported in 10 }:/
 
Try searching using this - get "enter streambox type and model number here" working with(or on) windows 7.

There are somethings xp does better than 7, thats why i just got new xp capable amd hardware.
 
Clanger said:
Try searching using this - get "enter streambox type and model number here" working with(or on) windows 7.

There are somethings xp does better than 7, thats why i just got new xp capable amd hardware.
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Doesn't seem there is an option. Elgato doesn't seem to be interested in the idea of their product working on win7 either }:/
 
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