Win 7 or 10 for Game Streaming

[Syc0Maniac]

I am a streamer and have been having problems with my system while streaming. I originally had an i7 6700k, 980 Ti, 16gb DDR4, OCZ RD400 NVME M.2 and as soon as I would start OBS to stream in Win 10, I would max out CPU to 100% so I decided to upgrade my system to Ryzen 7 1800x with same components and tested again and STILL 100% CPU usage as soon as I start streaming... I would like to know what you would recommend PLEASE. I was told that I can go to Win 7 but some of my items are not compatible so if I stay with 10, I NEED to super slim it down so it is not so resource heavy.

I would appreciate your input as to what I can take out of Win 7 or 10 to make it a lighter build and not eat up the resources and still use my items. I have downloaded the Asus EZ installer that is SUPPOSED to place the USB drivers into ISO but it fails when I get to ~77% every time. I have all of the drivers downloaded and also have NTLite. I just need to figure out if I go with 7, how to get all of my things to work on the OS properly or if I stay with 10 Pro, what needs to go in order to reduce the CPU usage of this hog!

Thank you VERY much!!

Items I currently use:

Ryzen 7 1800x AM4 CPU
Asus ROG Crosshair VI Hero
Toshiba OCZ RD400 NVME M.2 SSD
Corsair Vengeance DDR4
Nvidia GTX 980 Ti GPU
G.Skill RIPJAWS KM780R MX Keyboard
Logitech Proteus G502 RGB Mouse
Logitech C920 Pro WebCam
Elgato Stream Deck
MSI Optix G27C2 27" 1080P Monitor
LG 29UB55-B Black 29" UW IPS 1080P Monitor

 

[Syc0Maniac]

Another option I was pondering is a stripped version of win10. Just bare minimums of what i need to game/stream. I don't use it for much more than that besides surfing the interwebs and such..

 

[Clanger]

To be honest, i think the w10 problem is deeper than removing crap and disabling services, even if using LTSB. Try though and see how you get on.

 

[Syc0Maniac]

To be honest, i think the w10 problem is deeper than removing crap and disabling services, even if using LTSB. Try though and see how you get on.

I am going through my CDs product file and it seems like none of my codes are working/valid for any version of 7 }:/ I can't seem to get ahead from any angle.. LOL

 

[Clanger]

You are screwed then. The 2018 build "may" address the problems reported by gamers but dont hold your breath.

 

[Syc0Maniac]

You are screwed then. The 2018 build "may" address the problems reported by gamers but dont hold your breath.

What would you recommend?

 

[Clanger]

I aint gonna recommend didly squat because i am not a gamer, but i will give you the options(how i see it),
1 - Get a w7 capable stream box.
2 - Shrink w10 or use ltsb and shrink that.
3 - Change your needs. Do you really need to stream?

 

[Syc0Maniac]

I aint gonna recommend didly squat because i am not a gamer, but i will give you the options(how i see it),
1 - Get a w7 capable stream box.
2 - Shrink w10 or use ltsb and shrink that.
3 - Change your needs. Do you really need to stream?

I am twitch affiliated so I play games and stream while doing so. I am disabled so why not. Possibly make some $ while doing so The "stream box" as you call it is just a USB LCD graphical "macro" box to automate certain tasks while streaming.

 

[Clanger]

Link, Search results

 

[Syc0Maniac]

Link, Search results

I THINK I have found the Stream Deck replacement! Within the software, it has controls for win7... Now I just need to figure out how to get win7 slipstreamed and working with my NVME SSD }

 

[Clanger]

If you have to stick to w10. Ryzen is made up of 2 Core Complex Units and they "talk" over Infinity Fabric which introduces increased latency and a lot of software doesnt know how to correctly use the 2CCX arrangement, just like the old Bulldozer, 2 "modules". MS says the w10 scheduler works correctly on Ryzen.

This is what i have seen from around the web. Disabling Hyper Threading can increase performance. Disabling a CCX "may" help.
Project Mercury, AMD Ryzen Master, Process Lasso all tweak cpu settings. Have a look in the Process Lasso site for information and user feedback.

 

[Syc0Maniac]

The local computer shop also told me about a program called Process Hacker. Ever hear of it or used it?

 

[Clanger]

Heard of it but never used it. I use Process Lasso. It allows you to set a process to a specified core permanently, unlike Task Manager.

My main weapon for audio editing and rendering is REAPER DAW using the lame mp3 encoder. On XP, reaper and lame give a smooth render to mp3 without assigning it to certain cores, but on w7 and 10 it gives a very stuttery render on the progress window. REAPER can natively set core affinity but other stuff like Audacity doesnt, you'll need to do it in task manager or process lasso. LAME seems to prefer using a single core only, so Sound Forge and Audacity(also using LAME and FFMPEG) seem smoother too. You may be able to get acceptable streaming by setting core afinities for your programs. Try setting your games to threads 1 to 8(1st CCX) and ms stuff to threads 8 to 16(2nd CCX). Many seem to be waiting for single CCX Ryzens, inc the apus which are single CCX to solve the Infinity Fabric latency issues.