Windows 11 problems

luka1002

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Hello, i have created a new image from original final image of Windows 11. i applied some settings from previous **** and most of them works ok, but some does not.

Windows display language : Eng (UK)
preferred lang : Croatian (handwriting, basic typing) #keyboard only
Country region : Croatia
Regional format : Croatian

What i want is display language in all apps and settings in eng and only keyboard in Croatian. I can not achieve that, some windows settings are displayed on Croatian, most of the apps... I understand that some apps read Regional settings or keyboard , but why Windows settings (not all, some of them) and windows Store.

2nd problem i related to polices and start menu. I have disabled all recommended apps, last installed app and all of that in NTLite, and basicly ,When installed, start menu shows recommended apps. In settings , all are disabled but it says "Some of these settings are managed by your organisation" which means that there is reg key somewhere. I want to know where it is ,cos i think that those settings event they look like "OFF" and greyed out, i think that they are still on.
 

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garlin

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Search "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/Policies/Microsoft" for any created keys.

This should be empty, unless it was changed by GPO (group policy file), user registry update, or NTLite's settings page. If you know the key's name, it should be easier to figure where it was changed.

nuhi can answer your first question, since he's in the same region.
 

luka1002

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Search "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/Policies/Microsoft" for any created keys.

This should be empty, unless it was changed by GPO (group policy file), user registry update, or NTLite's settings page. If you know the key's name, it should be easier to figure where it was changed.

nuhi can answer your first question, since he's in the same region.
There are policies there, but none that matter in regard the problem.
 

garlin

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The disabled controls match these keys, check both system & user.

Registry HiveHKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE or HKEY_CURRENT_USER
Registry PathSoftware\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer
Value NameHideRecentlyAddedApps

Registry HiveHKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE or HKEY_CURRENT_USER
Registry PathSoftware\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer
Value NameShowOrHideMostUsedApps

Registry HiveHKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE or HKEY_CURRENT_USER
Registry PathSoftware\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer
Value NameNoRecentDocsHistory
 
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garlin

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System and apps in English (or en-GB), locale and keyboard as Croatian.
I can't select keyboard for Croatia on my NTLite(?) or try a placeholder, and edit autounattend.xml.

<InputLocale>041a:0000041a</InputLocale>
<SystemLocale>en</SystemLocale>
<UILanguage>en-US</UILanguage>
<UILanguageFallback>en-US</UILanguageFallback>
<UserLocale>hr</UserLocale>

Croatian - Bosnia and Herzegovinahr-BA: Croatian (101a:0000041a)
Croatian - Croatiahr-HR: Croatian (041a:0000041a)
 
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luka1002

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The disabled controls match these keys, check both system & user.

Registry HiveHKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE or HKEY_CURRENT_USER
Registry PathSoftware\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer
Value NameHideRecentlyAddedApps

Registry HiveHKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE or HKEY_CURRENT_USER
Registry PathSoftware\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer
Value NameShowOrHideMostUsedApps

Registry HiveHKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE or HKEY_CURRENT_USER
Registry PathSoftware\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer
Value NameNoRecentDocsHistory

OK ,only thing that i found is last registry Hive, but that does not explain all.user.pngphoto_2021-10-19_11-37-47.jpgrecommended.pngpersonalisation.png

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luka1002

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System and apps in English (or en-GB), locale and keyboard as Croatian.
I can't select keyboard for Croatia on my NTLite(?) or try a placeholder, and edit autounattend.xml.



Croatian - Bosnia and Herzegovinahr-BA: Croatian (101a:0000041a)
Croatian - Croatiahr-HR: Croatian (041a:0000041a)
I am having this:

Code:
<InputLocale>041a:0000041a</InputLocale>
<SystemLocale>hr-HR</SystemLocale>
<UserLocale>hr-HR</UserLocale>
 

garlin

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Code:
<InputLocale>041a:0000041a</InputLocale>
<SystemLocale>hr-HR</SystemLocale>
<UserLocale>hr-HR</UserLocale>

The labels can be confusing, here is the MS guide:

SystemLocale specifies the default language to use for non-Unicode programs.
UILanguage specifies the language that will be used as the default system language to display user interface (UI) items (such as menus, dialog boxes, and Help files
UserLocale specifies the per-user settings that are used for formatting dates, times, currency, and numbers in a Windows installation.

When your language isn't localized by an app, Windows will try the next "closest" locale. ie. French Canadian -> French
Because Croatian is not widely known, most apps will fall back to English. This explains the mixed display you see right now.
 
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luka1002

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The labels can be confusing, here is the MS guide:

SystemLocale specifies the default language to use for non-Unicode programs.
UILanguage specifies the language that will be used as the default system language to display user interface (UI) items (such as menus, dialog boxes, and Help files
UserLocale specifies the per-user settings that are used for formatting dates, times, currency, and numbers in a Windows installation.

When your language isn't localized by an app, Windows will try the next "closest" locale. ie. French Canadian -> French
Because Croatian is not widely known, most apps will fall back to English. This explains the mixed display you see right now.
This can explain most, i will need to review settings. Thx
 

luka1002

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What about CURRENT_USER policy settings? GPO (policies) can be configured per-user.
I did post pictures with CURRENT_USER, they have some but i have created new user and same thing, so it is OS based, so it should be in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE.
 

garlin

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Computer Configuration -> Admin Templates -> All Settings
Click on State, until changed settings sort to the top.
 

luka1002

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Computer Configuration -> Admin Templates -> All Settings
Click on State, until changed settings sort to the top.
All "Not configured", Computer & User policies. I have tried to use GPO to disable "Show recently added apps", does not work. Tried to use reg key for Windows 10, also does not work. Some forced policy from NTLite makes a problem with these start menu options.
 
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garlin

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I confirmed it's broken, using the merged presets (next time, provide the full W11 edited one).

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When I force the GPO to allow changes, it does nothing. By adding a missing key, I could turn on "Show recently add apps".
This suggests NTLite may be trimming some keys which are required. Need to compare against an unmodded W11 image.
 

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