Hope to add the function of changing the system version

Clanger

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if w7 and 8.1 are working on newer hardware then it is our job to let people know despite what the dell/etc support johnnies say.
 

KikiGames

Member
if w7 and 8.1 are working on newer hardware then it is our job to let people know despite what the dell/etc support johnnies say.
Normal users thinks: My PC/laptop comes with Windows 10, so It must be ONLY compatible with Windows 10 or higher.
I love Win 7, but the lack of offical support and no USB 3.0/other hardware drivers is a big problem for me sadly. I mean there are workarounds and maybe I could use Win 7 for everyday purpose but I can't give a pendrive with a tweaked Win 7 to my family couse what if my cousin wants a never game that is only run on Windows 8 or higher. Or buy a new printer or anything without Win 7 support. I don't want to be a helpdesk 0/24.
I think 8.1 can be a good family OS for at least 5 years. Or Im wrong?
 

Clanger

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as long as 7 and 8.1 work the only consideration is software. newer software will officially be w10 and build X only. ive got xp era software that runs fine even on ltsc without any compatibily options set. 8.1 dies its official death jan 2023 if im not mistaken. keep up to date with browser and AV software and that will take you to 2025 at least.
 

AeonX

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In my most important competitive game I got +20 avg fps and +13 0.1% low fps. And 13 fps for 0.1 low is too high to say "It's just margin of error". Micro lags are gone strange screen tearing gone. (Same settings as in Windows 10)
System feels much snappier even without tweaking. Boot time is so fast, first I tought there was a problem or something couse the welcome screen was skipped so fast.
It's quite exciting to know that on Windows 8.1 the performance is so much better! Yes Windows 8.1 has the fastest boot of all Windows.

Is there any significant difference between 8.1 pro and 8.1 Embedded Industry Pro?
Is there still a charm bar and stuff?
Embedded Industry does not have most Metro apps. If I'm not mistaken just Store and one or 2 other apps.

Charms bar is present but you can disable it with StartisBack or with a reg tweak:
Code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ImmersiveShell\EdgeUi]
"DisableCharmsHint"=dword:00000001

Oh and one more thing. I love how easy to enable classic theme on Win 8.1 almost without problems. I use this theme on my 8.1 right now:
https://www.deviantart.com/slybug/art/Dark-Classic-Theme-361735679
Thanks for the theme. But it is for Windows 7. Does it work on Windows 8.1 without any problems? Nice :)

I want to make a Windows 8.1 - 10 - 11 comparison and make a video about it. I will send you the link if you interested! :) (This will happen after first stable release of Windows 11 and after I move to a new city in like December)
Very cool! I have interest.
 
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AeonX

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Is it possible Charms Bar/drag to corners could be removed?
You can try this:
Code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

; Disable Corner Navigation and Charms Bar
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ImmersiveShell\EdgeUi]
"DisableCharmsHint"=dword:00000001
"DisableTLCorner"=dword:00000001
"DisableTRCorner"=dword:00000001

If not all corners are disabled (I don't remember if they are, I don't think so) you can use Startisback it disables them all.
 

Taosd

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Is there any game that runs on 8.1 but not 7? From what I've seen so far the games are compatible with 7 and 8.1 and 10 or only with 10.
i dont think there is . most become backwards compatable but i dont think there are any strict 8.1 games
 

KikiGames

Member

Yeah I didn't belive the difference too.
The theme works if you disable theme section in winlogon.exe so It will look exactly like in the screenshots. Or you can use it on Windows 8 aero or aerolite theme you just need to change the .theme downloaded file.
Put HighContrast=1 under [Theme Style].

Or something like this. Sorry Im from phone and my memory is bad but yeah.

If you use OpenShell's Classic theme, the themes will apply on start menu too.
Only problem I have is the newer version of Edge don't let me disable to follow Windows theme, so the webpages looks weird.
 

Clanger

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i like the metro theme, set the colours right, use prairie wind bitmap and i wont need any other themes. cant find a decent theme for 7 :(
if i remember correctly i couldnt disable all charms/corners. grrrrrr. cant abide all that aero shake snap peek crap, bloody intrusive.
EI Pro has store and some apps but not the whole lot you get in regular pro.

if startisback kills the corners crap then it must do it somehow, a reg edit, a constant running exe or dll. im loath to have startisback just to disable charms/corners.
 
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KikiGames

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i like the metro theme, set the colours right, use prairie wind bitmap and i wont need any other themes. cant find a decent theme for 7 :(
if i remember correctly i couldnt disable all charms/corners. grrrrrr. cant abide all that aero shake snap peek crap, bloody intrusive.
EI Pro has store and some apps but not the whole lot you get in regular pro.

if startisback kills the corners crap then it must do it somehow, a reg edit, a constant running exe or dll. im loath to have startisback just to disable charms/corners.
If I remember right, Startisback didn't run anything in taskmgr, maybe it's an injected dll or something. But I disabled Charms Bar, buuuut. If I know right, it's still running but invicible couse if you alt-tab with classic theme running you see ghost task running in the background. One of them is "something something search" and if you alt tab to that process Charms Bar opening (If the registry tweak not applyied). If applyed nothing happens but still running. There is a script or something called fxxkmetro that is closing ghost tasks, but I only trust in my own scripts.
 

KikiGames

Member
i aint signing up to yet another website. seems it is poo anyway. grrr
Oh sorry. I can't find it anywhere else. But as I said It's not working for me.
WinClassic is a forum about making Windows 7+ OS Classic themed. But 1 It's hard. 2 It's buggy. 3 Windows against it. Every single update broke something about Classic theme.
 

AeonX

Active Member
if startisback kills the corners crap then it must do it somehow, a reg edit, a constant running exe or dll. im loath to have startisback just to disable charms/corners.
I think StartisBack changes the Windows Shell or something like that. I couldn't figure out how it disables hot corners. It sure isn't using the registry for that.

it's still running but invicible couse if you alt-tab with classic theme running you see ghost task running in the background. One of them is "something something search" and if you alt tab to that process Charms Bar opening (If the registry tweak not applyied).
This is bad :( NTLite has a component called "Modern App support" which was formerly called Metro Services or something like that. Maybe removing that charms bar and all the rest of Metro will go away. But PC settings app won't work NTLite removes it as it doesn't work. Search in Start Screen will also not work even in Control Panel. It only works in file explorer as I recall.

hmm, looks like you can kill hot corners in Mouse settings, link, link.
The first link does exactly what the reg tweaks I posted do.
 

Clanger

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i always kill Search/Indexing anyway as i still use Everything.
think SiB prolly has something running constantly. will get 81EI in a vm this week/next week, see what i find.
i dont want to kill the metro theme because i like it.
 
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