Integrating specific REG breaks Start Menu and Search (LTSC 2021 IoT)

[tted]

Good try, but that wasn't it. I'm developing my own theory, let's see.

 

[tted]

LMAO this is one elusive MOFO, my stab at it failed as well.

Namely, the following maintains start menu and search function:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\OneDrive]
"DisableFileSyncNGSC"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\OneDrive]
"PreventNetworkTrafficPreUserSignIn"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\CredUI]
"DisablePasswordReveal"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TabletTip\1.7]
"EnableTextPrediction"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\CloudContent]
"DisableWindowsSpotlightFeatures"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization]
"RestrictImplicitInkCollection"=dword:00000001
"RestrictImplicitTextCollection"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager]
"SystemPaneSuggestionsEnabled"=dword:00000000

 

[tted]

The offender has been confirmed to be here:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\CDP]
"RomeSdkChannelUserAuthzPolicy"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Search]
"CortanaConsent"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Start]
"ShowRecentList"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Speech_OneCore\Settings\VoiceActivation\UserPreferenceForAllApps]
"AgentActivationOnLockScreenEnabled"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SettingSync]
"SyncPolicy"=dword:00000005

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SettingSync\Groups\Personalization]
"Enabled"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SettingSync\Groups\BrowserSettings]
"Enabled"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SettingSync\Groups\Credentials]
"Enabled"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SettingSync\Groups\Language]
"Enabled"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SettingSync\Groups\Accessibility]
"Enabled"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SettingSync\Groups\Windows]
"Enabled"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced\People]
"PeopleBand"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Siuf\Rules]
"PeriodInNanoSeconds"=dword:00000000

AND is likely to be this combination:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SettingSync]
"SyncPolicy"=dword:00000005

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SettingSync\Groups\Personalization]
"Enabled"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SettingSync\Groups\BrowserSettings]
"Enabled"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SettingSync\Groups\Credentials]
"Enabled"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SettingSync\Groups\Language]
"Enabled"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SettingSync\Groups\Accessibility]
"Enabled"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SettingSync\Groups\Windows]
"Enabled"=dword:00000000

 

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Wrong again apparently, these entries vindicated:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SettingSync]
"SyncPolicy"=dword:00000005

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SettingSync\Groups\Personalization]
"Enabled"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SettingSync\Groups\BrowserSettings]
"Enabled"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SettingSync\Groups\Credentials]
"Enabled"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SettingSync\Groups\Language]
"Enabled"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SettingSync\Groups\Accessibility]
"Enabled"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SettingSync\Groups\Windows]
"Enabled"=dword:00000000

 

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Confirmed, the confirmed suspect(s) are:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Search]
"CortanaConsent"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Start]
"ShowRecentList"=dword:00000000


End of Debugging.

 

[tted]

So there's a few options here:
If you think about it, it's silly to add currentuser entries before the first login.
Therefore it follows that NTLite delete all those entries if added to the registry portion or before login portion in post-setup.
This will prevent lots of problems for users. All kinds of things will be instantly resolved.
Perhaps a block on those two keys to help keep start menu and search function.
Finally, please only show "Servicing stack compatibility option is disabled, deep removal mode is enabled." if removing components. Not something you want to see if you are just applying a post-setup.

 

[nuhi]

Confirmed, the confirmed suspect(s) are:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Search]
"CortanaConsent"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Start]
"ShowRecentList"=dword:00000000


End of Debugging.

Hm, at least the first one is not influencing app engine deployment and I've always used it.
That Start one haven't tried, but it also looks mild.
There must be something else going on.

To simplify things, can you please attach working vs non-working addition, and only it, so that I can test and confirm your findings?
Breaks.reg vs Works.reg

Thanks.

 

[nuhi]

So there's a few options here:
If you think about it, it's silly to add currentuser entries before the first login.
Therefore it follows that NTLite delete all those entries if added to the registry portion or before login portion in post-setup.
This will prevent lots of problems for users. All kinds of things will be instantly resolved.
Perhaps a block on those two keys to help keep start menu and search function.
Finally, please only show "Servicing stack compatibility option is disabled, deep removal mode is enabled." if removing components. Not something you want to see if you are just applying a post-setup.

Current user settings are applied to the Default User (real one, not System User), and they get embedded into each new user.
Some settings, mostly UI personalization, are the one that get reset when desktop theme is applied, but let's not ditch the Default user concept just because of those.