Not all updates preinstalled, net icon not appearing, reveal desktop not disabling, missing settings icon start menu, error 0x800F081F (Win 10/11)

[mvierssen]

I am working on making my windows 10 and 11 installations and setups automatic and reproducible including program installation (using silent installs and scoop etc). Most of this works well except for a few things for which I have made a list. I really hope someone can help me. Of course I can solve much of this using a post install script, but I prefer to solve it in and with ntlite itself.

Windows 10:
- Cumulative update 2022-02 kb5010415 and update 2021-11 kb4023057 install themselves despite having added the latest updates to the image (I used the online download button). Shouldn't they already be installed (I used the "Add Latest Online Updates" feature)?

- All pinned items are removed from the start menu as intended except for the store. How to remove the store as well?

Windows 11 (using almost 1:1 profile settings as Windows 10):
- Cumulative update 2022-02 kb5010414, cumulative update 2022-02 kb5010474 and update 2021-10 Windows SV kb4023057 install themselves. kb5010474 cannot install reporting the error "0x800F081F". Any idea what could cause this? I already included the latest updates in the image (I thought). Why do they still have to be installed (I used the "Add Latest Online Updates" feature)?

- The settings icon is missing in the start menu which should be next to the power icon. I did not configure it to be removed. The "Start Menu / Folder - Settings" option is set to Default.

- How to align the taskbar items to left by default using ntlite or do I have to do this myself using a script?

- The network icon is not appearing in the taskbar. It does in Windows 10.

Both Windows:
- Auto activates with a digital license as Windows Enterprise instead of Pro. How is this possible, I thought Enterprise required a volume license? The edition I chose and configured in ntlite is the Pro edition. Also the ImageInfo text mentions "Professional".

- Remove show / reveal desktop in taskbar. I configured this in ntlite, but it still appears. Advanced/DisablePreviewDesktop is set to 1.

Update: Added the presets. I just noticed that I did not add the above updates to the image. I think the "Add Latest Online Updates" feature just does not retrieve all the updates.

 

[garlin]

Please attach your presets, it's easier to figure out what's going. Don't forget to remove any account passwords or license keys.

 

[mvierssen]

Please attach your presets, it's easier to figure out what's going. Don't forget to remove any account passwords or license keys.

Thank you for letting me know. I added them to my post.

 

[crypticus]

Windows 10
1) cumulative updates/feature updates always found and reinstalled even when you integrate them to iso via ntlite or any other tools. it happens because of component removals. you can try to hide those months cu fu updates if u dont want them.

2) ntlite doesn't clear taskbar, if u want to clear them you can use this command in setupcomplete.cmd or postsetup part in ntlite
Del /F /S /Q /A "%AppData%\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch\User Pinned\TaskBar\*" >Nul 2>&1
Reg Delete HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Taskband /F >Nul 2>&1

Windows 11
1) Same answer, it may not be installed because it is already installed.

2) if it is not broken, it can be enabled from taskbar settings. if it is already enabled and broken then maybe garlin or nuhi can pin point the component for you, currently i can not test it efficiently on this system i am using

3) for alignment use reg file can be added to ntlite's regedit part. or can be imported via setupcomplete.cmd
align to left https://www.elevenforum.com/attachm...reg.76/?hash=03956b16102402bf5755ad7d81956713
align to center https://www.elevenforum.com/attachm...reg.75/?hash=03956b16102402bf5755ad7d81956713

4) on windows 11 network sound and battery acts as one button, if one missing they all should can u share screenshot? if its broken again maybe garlin or nuhi can help about it

Others
Depends on which digital licenser you use, some scripts install wrong keys. but i cannot discuss about piracy.
Reveal desktop button may need update by nuhi

 

[garlin]

Windows 10:
- Cumulative update 2022-02 kb5010415 and update 2021-11 kb4023057 install themselves despite me having added them to the image (I used the online download button). Shouldn't they already be installed?

W10 preset only includes SSU-19041.1161, KB500964, KB5010342, and KB5009467.
You're probably not checking Enqueue (add to my Updates list). Download only implies save to Updates folder.

Windows 11 (using almost 1:1 profile settings as Windows 10):
- Cumulative update 2022-02 kb5010414, cumulative update 2022-02 kb5010474 and update 2021-10 Windows SV kb4023057 install themselves. kb5010474 cannot install reporting the error "0x800F081F". Any idea what could cause this? I already included the latest updates in the image (I thought). Why do they still have to be installed?

W11 preset includes KB5009646 twice (did you copy/paste?), KB5010386, and KB5009469.
Same issue, not using Enqueue function.

Not sure why KB5010474 (Feb '22 .NET CU preview) doesn't install. Fix the other problems first.

Both Windows:
- Auto activates with a digital license as Windows Enterprise instead of Pro. How is this possible, I thought Enterprise required a volume license? The edition I chose and configured in ntlite is the Pro edition. Also the ImageInfo text mentions "Professional".

Does your PC have a Enterprise license key embedded in the BIOS? Just a guess.

Correct the updates situation and report back if the broken UI problems are still there.

 

[mvierssen]

Windows 10
1) cumulative updates/feature updates always found and reinstalled even when you integrate them to iso via ntlite or any other tools. it happens because of component removals. you can try to hide those months cu fu updates if u dont want them.

2) ntlite doesn't clear taskbar, if u want to clear them you can use this command in setupcomplete.cmd or postsetup part in ntlite
Del /F /S /Q /A "%AppData%\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch\User Pinned\TaskBar\*" >Nul 2>&1
Reg Delete HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Taskband /F >Nul 2>&1

Windows 11
1) Same answer, it may not be installed because it is already installed.

2) if it is not broken, it can be enabled from taskbar settings. if it is already enabled and broken then maybe garlin or nuhi can pin point the component for you, currently i can not test it efficiently on this system i am using

3) for alignment use reg file can be added to ntlite's regedit part. or can be imported via setupcomplete.cmd
align to left https://www.elevenforum.com/attachm...reg.76/?hash=03956b16102402bf5755ad7d81956713
align to center https://www.elevenforum.com/attachm...reg.75/?hash=03956b16102402bf5755ad7d81956713

4) on windows 11 network sound and battery acts as one button, if one missing they all should can u share screenshot? if its broken again maybe garlin or nuhi can help about it

Others
Depends on which digital licenser you use, some scripts install wrong keys. but i cannot discuss about piracy.
Reveal desktop button may need update by nuhi

Thanks for the quick response and the commands. I was hoping that maybe I could do it through ntlite settings, but running commands is also fine if there is no other way.

I just found out that I had not even included the updates (which are installed automatically) in the image. I was using the "Add Latest Online Updates" button. Apparently the download button did not download these updates.

And yes, the network part is there along with everything else. Clearly, I haven't used Windows 11 long enough

Windows 10 Pro was previously installed on that machine and I just had it activated automatically.

 

[crypticus]

Add updates then but still they can appear... Dont worry about it they are installed but they can be installed again nothing wrong with that.
Name of the edition changes accordingly which key is used, maybe something is mixed i will PM u about this.

Then all fixed.

 

[garlin]

Forgot one more, digital licenses can be tied to your Microsoft account.

 

[nuhi]

mvierssen, thanks for reporting, replies inline below.

I am working on making my windows 10 and 11 installations and setups automatic and reproducible including program installation (using silent installs and scoop etc). Most of this works well except for a few things for which I have made a list. I really hope someone can help me. Of course I can solve much of this using a post install script, but I prefer to solve it in and with ntlite itself.

Windows 10:
- Cumulative update 2022-02 kb5010415 and update 2021-11 kb4023057 install themselves despite having added the latest updates to the image (I used the online download button). Shouldn't they already be installed (I used the "Add Latest Online Updates" feature)?

Try keeping the 'Cumulative Update cache (LCU)' component, if confirmed, will add a warning.

- All pinned items are removed from the start menu as intended except for the store. How to remove the store as well?

There is no option to unpin items from the Start Menu.
The Store has the no pinning to taskbar option, but that's it.

- How to align the taskbar items to left by default using ntlite or do I have to do this myself using a script?

Indeed thought this one was done, will be in next.

Both Windows:
- Auto activates with a digital license as Windows Enterprise instead of Pro. How is this possible, I thought Enterprise required a volume license? The edition I chose and configured in ntlite is the Pro edition. Also the ImageInfo text mentions "Professional".

Hm, is it different if not edited, same ISO?
Are we talking about Windows automatic activation or you use KMS?

- Remove show / reveal desktop in taskbar. I configured this in ntlite, but it still appears. Advanced/DisablePreviewDesktop is set to 1.

Nice catch for Win11, fixed in next. Actually there is only push option there.

As for Win10, hovering with mouse is what is being enabled/disabled, clicking still works after that, not sure if that can be disabled.
Let me know if peeking (hovering) actually wasn't being switched on 10.

Update: Added the presets. I just noticed that I did not add the above updates to the image. I think the "Add Latest Online Updates" feature just does not retrieve all the updates.

Which updates were missing? And make sure to pick Previews if there are newer updates, they are not pre-selected, only stable ones.


And the todo:

Windows 11 (using almost 1:1 profile settings as Windows 10):
- Cumulative update 2022-02 kb5010414, cumulative update 2022-02 kb5010474 and update 2021-10 Windows SV kb4023057 install themselves. kb5010474 cannot install reporting the error "0x800F081F". Any idea what could cause this? I already included the latest updates in the image (I thought). Why do they still have to be installed (I used the "Add Latest Online Updates" feature)?

Additional to the LCU Cache comment above, will test the kb5010474 with your preset, that's not expected.

- The settings icon is missing in the start menu which should be next to the power icon. I did not configure it to be removed. The "Start Menu / Folder - Settings" option is set to Default.

- The network icon is not appearing in the taskbar. It does in Windows 10.

Will check.

 

[nuhi]

Tested mvierssen-w11-v2.xml in Win11 and only the missing network tray icon confirmed. Network works of course.
Installing KB5010474 no errors, and Settings icon is right there on the Start Menu.

The network icon is dependent upon "Radio Management Service", simple to confirm on a full OS simply by disabling it and rebooting, same effect.
Will move this component to Recommended to keep (red ones), thanks for pointing this out - it's a basic functionality that should be noted and walled-off.
Currently it's noted in the description only if using Win10 1703, seemed not to matter in later versions, now back on Win11.

 

[mvierssen]

Tested mvierssen-w11-v2.xml in Win11 and only the missing network tray icon confirmed. Network works of course.
Installing KB5010474 no errors, and Settings icon is right there on the Start Menu.

The network icon is dependent upon "Radio Management Service", simple to confirm on a full OS simply by disabling it and rebooting, same effect.
Will move this component to Recommended to keep (red ones), thanks for pointing this out - it's a basic functionality that should be noted and walled-off.
Currently it's noted in the description only if using Win10 1703, seemed not to matter in later versions, now back on Win11.

Thank you for all the fixes in the latest version