General performance optimizations

I personally use Defraggler by Piriform. Never had any issues, and unlike their CCleaner counterpart this program has no telemetry/ads or other garbage. I like it since it's small and simple. It also runs portable, however in this mode you cannot use the "Boot Time Defrag" for the MFT.
 
Hellbovine said:
I personally use Defraggler by Piriform. Never had any issues, and unlike their CCleaner counterpart this program has no telemetry/ads or other garbage. I like it since it's small and simple. It also runs portable, however in this mode you cannot use the "Boot Time Defrag" for the MFT.
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i grabbed a copy of that. running it now cheers
 
Latest ccleaners(anything post buyout) suck monkey balls, i use 5.32 and winapp2+3 combined.
 
Yeah I agree, I'm losing interest in CCleaner too the more I use it. However, I just cannot find a good competitor. Bleachbit was a great contender I kept my eye on for years, but it has obvious bugs that still need ironing out and support seems to have stopped entirely for it now. I also had to stop using winapp which I loved, because it started borking Windows 10. It was making it so all my built-in Windows apps would no longer launch at all when clicked on from the start menu. I will try winapp again down the road, I just wanted to give them time to fix things first.
 
garlin posted a link for 5.32 on a wayback type web page. winapp2+3 combined are great at finding stuff which you can then try to disable. Yeah, the winapps can be very dangerous :/
 
Hellbovine said:
In my W10 21H2 it defaults to disabled.
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"The “Last Access” updates are enabled for NTFS volumes when the size of the system volume (which is usually mounted as the “C:” drive) is 128 GiB or less. If the system volume is larger, then the “Last Access” updates are disabled."

https://dfir.ru/2018/12/08/the-last-access-updates-are-almost-back/

But at the end of the page it also says:
Update (2019-10-09):

It seems that Microsoft disabled the system volume size threshold by default in recent Insider Preview versions of “20H1”. In these versions, the “Last Access” updates are enabled by default regardless of the system volume size.
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Hellbovine said:
In testing this just now I actually discovered a problem, and Microsoft is either bugged or it's a typo. If you use the command, "fsutil behavior set disablelastaccess" the values shown in that table do not match what Windows reports when you query it so that's probably where a lot of confusion is coming from and why the history timeline of this tweak is messed up.
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That's true, I myself was confused. But the correct result for the "fsutil behavior query disablelastaccess" command is DisableLastAccess = 1 (User Managed, Enabled). I tested and last access is only disabled with the value 1.

I think it's more a case of unclear semantics than a bug or typo. I think this means DisableLastAccess is enabled so Last Access is disabled.
 
AeonX said:
I think it's more a case of unclear semantics than a bug or typo. I think this means DisableLastAccess is enabled so Last Access is disabled.
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That sounds reasonable, you're probably right. It's one of those scenarios where it would have been best to just reword the entire thing as to be more intuitive rather than technical. I just stumbled on an article too about the disk drive size determining the system managed aspect, and that makes sense, I was wondering how they were determining the "system managed" part.

The disk size aspect was probably what was implemented back in Vista maybe, and also helps explain where all the confusion is coming from in websites regarding this tweak because the default is not only changing based on disk size which will vary wildly between users, but then also the wording on the fsutil isn't as clear as it could be too. Plus, they changed the registry key at some point, so that compounded these problems.
 
n2k12 said:
they are needed, especially for things like the disk defragmenter and chkdsk
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Then I read that you were using a third-party program, in which case yes it can cause an unexpected operation. But the defrag tool (windows native) and chkdsk definitely doesn't rely on last access time stamp.

Rather than telling people not to use a tweak it's better to warn about the possible consequences.

"The disablelastaccess parameter can affect programs such as Backup and Remote Storage, which rely on this feature."
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/w...tion/windows-commands/fsutil-behavior#remarks
 
Hellbovine said:
I'm losing interest in CCleaner too the more I use it. However, I just cannot find a good competitor.
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I've used Wise Disk Cleaner a few times and it seems pretty good. Bleachbit has an awful UI. And I didn't like it for other reasons too, the report of the files that are removed is confusing, I found it a bit buggy too.
 
Hellbovine said:
Defrag also won't wear out your SSD in a major way, that's a grossly overblown concern.
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That's because current-generation NAND cycles, and improved wear leveling have made the original fears of prematurely wearing out a SSD a minor concern.

I still wouldn't do, even with better SSD write performance -- you're tying up SSD cycles shuffling data around when read times get zero improvement.
Unless you're like an 8 year-old obsessed with neatly arranged color squares in the disk map.
 
garlin said:
That's because current-generation NAND cycles, and improved wear leveling have made the original fears of prematurely wearing out a SSD a minor concern.

I still wouldn't do, even with better SSD write performance -- you're tying up SSD cycles shuffling data around when read times get zero improvement.
Unless you're like an 8 year-old obsessed with neatly arranged color squares in the disk map.
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lol. i like colored squares, especially when they are aligned. makes my autistic stimming, quite happy
 
It's there for users that run Windows Backup on W7 systems, to restore their files to W10. It's a terrible poor man's migration tool for the really, non-technical users out there. Many absurd things in Windows are preserved solely for backwards compatibility.
 
only normys use windows own stuff, home user plus and upwards use 3rd party tools.
 
garlin said:
For years, Windows Backup has been deprecated.
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Yes, but in this case I think Microsoft is talking about backup programs in general. Any program that uses this feature.

But honestly, if the program doesn't crash and works without it and it just has a badly behaved feature I don't care.

And I don't usually use backup programs, if one day I use it, I'll use a boot pendrive for that.
 
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