Install .NET 4.8 into Windows 7 SP1

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Smokes

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Hi
Can anyone point me, a noob in the right direction how to install .net 4.8 into my W7 Sp1 Ultimate x64 this pre req is needed for NordVPN
Post install does work but takes a long time as noted in a post somewhere on the forum, BUT to make sure as curiosity got the better I had to try and test :)
Today I came across GImageX - GUI, would this be recommended to try and learn?

Thanks
Smokes
 
Smokes said:
Once basic clean has been done would it be just a case of extracting a Win 7 iso and put new wim in or more complicated?
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you got it, its as easy as that, extract an iso and and put your new wim in inplace of install.wim. you must name your wim to install.wim or setup will fail. you are nearly there. dont know about uefi settings, wait for other replies.
 
Thanks Clanger I will try and give it a go.

Changing tactics, I think I did it the same way as you would do it. Sysprep & ImageX Win7 without using Vmware. If that is right Im pleased I have learned something new. God, it is easy like you say, once you do it. Ignore the file size, there are some security updates and programs installed. I used NTLite with your v2 clean profile. Nothing other than that has been removed.... yet :) I thought it best to keep a backup before trying anything else.

I tried just to "see' if I could get my wim file to boot from a virtual drive, it booted and installed without any issue in VMware, but could only do Bios. I see there is an efi boot folder in my iso, question is what have I done wrong? mbr booting only. The red arrow points to my wim file

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sysprep and gimagex, i dont use imagex on its own. if you capture with dism it doesnt set the image(edition?) flag but imagex(gimagex) does(according to abbodi86 if i remember correctly). it is so easy(once you know how) and doing it manually its not worth me learning how to automate it.

i dont know why it isnt booting, compare a standard untouched extracted image and your new image, see if you notice anything, like a file or folder mebbe. go back to post no4, you did tick the boot option didnt you

Smokes said:
If that is right Im pleased I have learned something new.
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like the day i learned how to do it and when i built a silent installer for wmp10 on xp.
 
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A bit off topic, but after I installed .NET 4.7.2 on Win7, I noticed that my idle processes stay low for days on end now. Whereas before installing this .NET, I used to see about 5% Task Manager after a day of the computer being up.
 
pmikep win7 has visible services for .nets, i got 4.8 on this machine

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when you install net4x it disables the v2.0 services so it could be that 4x is just more efficient. i usually disable 4x but i havnt tweaked this install much, if at all.
 
Clanger, Thank's for the help (and patience!) its people like you who can make a good forum even better. One last question, would I be able to use your cleaner v2 with a Win 10 wim?
 
Smokes yeah but there maybe 2 differences,
net4 setup may not appear as w10 hasd got net 4x already in there, may show if you integrate 4.8
update cleanup may have different options, use dism or dism(compatible) options if availible.
so apart from net setups and update cleanup options you can use it on any os because the rest of the cleanups arent os specific.

edit - if you want to clean the image a little bit further you could remove all 3rd party drivers and keyboards and languages.
windows 7 includes nearly 1gb of 3rd party drivers. i dont mean drivers that are tied to an ms driver like cpu.inf for instance, drivers that are labelled by their company, like amd intel hp etc. what is the point of keeping languages and keyboards you dont need? none. removing that lot will save you around 1gb on your installed size, i reckon at around 6.3gb installed which is similar to ltsc.

i would be care with anything marked intel though, they may be needed if you install on intel because intel chipset inf installer is all inf files.

edit - ahh, seen your post, vmware. tick its Compatibility options and keep any component marked for it or as a dependancy in the notes.
 
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AeonX said:
You can create a repack of .NET 4.8 and its updates using this:
https://github.com/abbodi1406/dotNetFx4xW7

Installation is faster and takes up less disk space as it does not include superseded files :)

Or you can integrate offline the .NET 4.8 addon from WinToolkit:
https://www.wincert.net/forum/topic/11127-microsoft-net-framework-48-for-windows-7
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What's the Difference ? I'm assuming the top link is a make yourself beastie ? and the bottom one is a done already for you bestie ? What the diddly is a .WA file and how do I use it ? o_O I has questions....

Clanger said:
i dont know everything
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Lies, you're just holding out on us and keeping your secrets secret ;):cool:
 
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KaptanJackSparrow said:
Lies
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no its true, i am still "home user plus" and i have a very limited way of working. others know wayyyyyyyyyyy more than i do. i know what i need to know and no more.

KaptanJackSparrow said:
you're just holding out on us and keeping your secrets secret ;):cool:
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i share most of what i do, on the very rare occasion i hold something back.
i will look at net5xxx for win 7 if its possible.
 
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KaptanJackSparrow said:
What's the Difference ? I'm assuming the top link is a make yourself beastie ? and the bottom one is a done already for you bestie ? What the diddly is a .WA file and how do I use it ? o_O I has questions....
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Yes the first you have to create it yourself but it is a completely automated process after putting the files in the right place.

After creating the setup you need to install it on a live system.

The second is a ready made pack and can be integrated offline using WinToolkit.

However it is done in a manual process of monitoring the keys in the registry and files on the disk that are modified so it is subject to human errors as has happened sometimes.
 
i dont mind addons and repackers and abbodi knows his stuff but WTK? oof, brings back bad memories :eek:, thats what made me start using 1 tool only.

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However it is done in a manual process of monitoring the keys in the registry and files on the disk that are modified
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if wtk mounts the registry then try sniffing its output with regfromapp.
 
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this is somewhat going over my head,

Option 1 is a completely automated create it yourself packager after you put all the required files in the right place. it then makes a stripped down .net setup, so it's basically like Ntlite for .net ? the question then becomes if it has to be created and installed on a live system, will it be portable from system to system once created ? does ntlite integrate this package or is a slimmed down post install installer ?

Option 2 sounds like it's more risky, and less desirable an option 1.

I too would be interested in an addon/packer/repacker to integrate Ie11 either into a "works out of the box installer" or an Ntlite integrate-able package.
 
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i dont mind addons and repackers and abbodi knows his stuff but WTK?
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abbodi certainly does a great job I trust his technical knowledge but even he is subject to human errors although soon when someone reports he quickly fixes the bugs so the addon is very safe to use. I just explained the pros and cons of each alternative. Just test and see if everything goes well :)

I already had problems with the addon once of not being able to install Windows so personally prefer to create the repack and install it in audit mode, do the sysprep and capture the image also because I do all this process anyway to have a clean image without pending operations due to updates.

If you use WinToolkit just to add addons you will have no problem.
 
KaptanJackSparrow said:
it then makes a stripped down .net setup, so it's basically like Ntlite for .net ? the question then becomes if it has to be created and installed on a live system, will it be portable from system to system once created ? does ntlite integrate this package or is a slimmed down post install installer ?
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This is based on the ricktendo repack. Unfortunately I didn't find much information about this just this link:
https://www.wincert.net/forum/topic/9154-slim-net-framework-4-full-x86x64-1-10-2016/

Once created it can be installed on any system. You can use post install with setupcomplete as repack accepts switches:

Code: 
/y
Passive mode, shows progress but requires no user interaction.
/ai
Quiet mode, no user input required, only extraction dialog is shown.
/ai /gm2
Quiet mode, no user input required or output shown.
/sfxlang:
Set the program display language, if possible. Example: /sfxlang:1031
/h | /?
Display this help.

Examples:

Automatically install package and display progress:
NDP472-Slim-x86-x64-ENU.exe /y
Silently install package and display no progress:
NDP472-Slim-x86-x64-ENU.exe /ai /gm2

But if you are going to use ESU updates it can be tricky to know which updates to use. I don't even know if they work with this repack. In that sense it may be easier to use the addon.

This link explains how the addon is created:
https://github.com/abbodi1406/dotNetFx4xW7A

An alternative that I forgot is to use Simplix UpdatePack7R2 with the addon.
 
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Why use a repack or addon if you can just integrate the IE cab?
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I didn't know there was an IE Cab, I'm struggling to get IE 11 to install it won't install no matter what I do. I would love to just integrate it and probably bypass the issue.

I thanks for the links more reading for me lol

my Russian isn't quite good enough to read the Simplex link, I am guessing your Russian ? yay translate lol
 
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But if you are going to use ESU updates it can be tricky to know which updates to use. I don't even know if they work with this repack.
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i think ESU's can only be installed on a running system. doesnt simplix have tons of drivers in so people were using it to try to install w7 on ryzen? think i tried simplix once and said stuff it.
 
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