recurring problem on ntlite

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It is not the first time that I report this problem. It is already something recurring. I integrate a cumulative update with NTlite and windows update ignores the integration and downloads again.
Today the same thing happens again with the cumulative KB5022282
Hopefully you guys can fix it. Thanks in advance

Windows 10 Pro 22h2 19045.2486
NTlite 2.3.9.9020

PD: Before you ask me for the files. I don't have the logs or the preset, so I suggest you do tests
 

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Without logs and presets no one can look to see if anything you have done may have affected this.
PD: Before you ask me for the files. I don't have the logs or the preset, so I suggest you do tests
How about You Do the test again and supply preset and logs this time.
 

Necrosaro

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It is not the first time that I report this problem. It is already something recurring. I integrate a cumulative update with NTlite and windows update ignores the integration and downloads again.
Today the same thing happens again with the cumulative KB5022282
Hopefully you guys can fix it. Thanks in advance

Windows 10 Pro 22h2 19045.2486
NTlite 2.3.9.9020

PD: Before you ask me for the files. I don't have the logs or the preset, so I suggest you do tests
Things happen unfortunately but logs help tremendously. It's the same as saying my back hurts without telling anything else about what may have happened to your body to the doctor. It's very hard to diagnose problems without something to look back on.
 

nuhi

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Been getting similar reports suddenly, only if .NET 3.5 is integrated.
Testing and working with a few people to confirm it, will post a new version when fixed.
Could be on non-English ISOs only, as I could not confirm the issue.
 
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Things happen unfortunately but logs help tremendously. It's the same as saying my back hurts without telling anything else about what may have happened to your body to the doctor. It's very hard to diagnose problems without something to look back on.
Your analogy is not correct as this is the third time I have reported this type of problem. The two previous ones with the files you ask for. And the solution is always "wait to release a new version".
However, I'm going to do as you ask, and I hope this time it won't be a waste of time.
 
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Been getting similar reports suddenly, only if .NET 3.5 is integrated.
Testing and working with a few people to confirm it, will post a new version when fixed.
Could be on non-English ISOs only, as I could not confirm the issue.
thanks. In my case, I only integrate to ISO:
windows10.0-kb5020872-x64-ndp48_bb5ae5e053bff6c04f6ea938fee416ddaf92e14e.msu
windows10.0-kb5022282-x64_fdb2ea85e921869f0abe1750ac7cee34876a760c.msu
Original ISO Win10_22H2_Spanish_x64.iso
Versions to build: Pro, Home, Home SL, Education
I haven't tested yet but I guess if it happens on windows 10 it will happen on windows 11 too
 
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nuhi

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Thanks.
In that case, if just the .NET and Cumulative updates were integrated, also no removed components, it cannot be due to NTLite as it just uses Windows own DISM to integrate them.

The issue with reprompting Cumulative update was in combination with .NET 3.5, the update needed to be reapplied (it's an old known issue, but the routine wasn't working on an isolated WIM files, outside of ISO file structure).
Fix uploaded for that scenario.

Can you please try the new version, build 9039 or newer (ntlite.com/download), and make sure there is no .NET 3.5 in the image already, for example if made it with UUP and enabled .NET 3.5.
Then edit it as you like, you can add .NET 3.5 together with the updates, if that was your goal, the tool will now properly sort the integration.

There are currently no known issues around this scenario, so if you get the same with the new version and a fresh ISO, I'm interested in replicating it on your exact ISO to see what's going on. Regardless where the issue is, if I can automate the solution, would be of value.
Note that today might come new preview updates, so make sure to read those KB numbers carefully if something does pop up.
 
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tested on NTlite 2.3.9.9039

problem persist
 

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nuhi

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Done, here is my WU screen after it, no kb5022282. Shutdown, rescan, clean.

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Make sure it's an original, intact ISO, and don't configure any Features after while testing, as it may trigger the redownload (to reupdate changed bits).
 
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Done, here is my WU screen after it, no kb5022282. Shutdown, rescan, clean.

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Make sure it's an original, intact ISO, and don't configure any Features after while testing, as it may trigger the redownload (to reupdate changed bits).
My ISO is original (downloaded from the official microsoft page) and I have not modified any function after the test.
The posted image is not the answer to the problem (It only shows that windows 10 is doing some minor updates).
Do the following: Finish installing those updates and again run windows update (2-3 times if necessary until there are no updates left pending) and you will see the KB5022282 package start downloading
 
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version testing: Windows 10 Pro 22H2 (ESP Latino Colombia)
original ISO: Win10_22H2_Spanish_x64.iso

You never mentioned this in 4 previous threads on this subject.


Adding the Español (Columbia) language pack (LP) will trigger a re-install of the last CU. Every time a LP is installed in order after the CU, Windows will re-apply the same CU.

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Since you adamantly said nothing was changed in the installed image, no one would have tested for this condition.
AFAIK, there isn't a separate es-CO language pack download, for integration into an image. So you're stuck downloading it on a live system.
 
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You never mentioned this in 4 previous threads on this subject.


Adding the Español (Columbia) language pack (LP) will trigger a re-install of the last CU. Every time a LP is installed in order after the CU, Windows will re-apply the same CU.

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Since you adamantly said nothing was changed in the installed image, no one would have tested for this condition.
AFAIK, there isn't a separate es-CO language pack download, for integration into an image. So you're stuck downloading it on a live system.
1. So, according to you, I have never reported anything similar and this is the product of my imagination... If you want, you can add that my images published in this thread are made in photoshop
2. The original ISO image used, as I mentioned before, is in Spanish (not an English ISO with the Spanish language pack added to it)

This is supposed to be a place to report incidents, with the purpose of developers improving NTLite and making it a better program every day, but the opposite happens and you blame me for the program (or windows) error.
In this case it is better to close this thread as it is a waste of time for me. After this, I don't think I will continue to report incidents

thanks in advance
 

nuhi

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My ISO is original (downloaded from the official microsoft page) and I have not modified any function after the test.
The posted image is not the answer to the problem (It only shows that windows 10 is doing some minor updates).
Do the following: Finish installing those updates and again run windows update (2-3 times if necessary until there are no updates left pending) and you will see the KB5022282 package start downloading
I did state "Shutdown, rescan, clean.", meaning no more updates were offered later.

Garlin brings up a good point and probably explains the difference in our tests.
I used ES-ES image as in your preset, haven't added any lang packs as I wasn't instructed to do so.

Lang packs do play tricks with the integrated updates, it's a Windows thing.

As to suddenly being offended, I cannot find a reason and don't have the time for drama.
 
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I did state "Shutdown, rescan, clean.", meaning no more updates were offered later.

Garlin brings up a good point and probably explains the difference in our tests.
I used ES-ES image as in your preset, haven't added any lang packs as I wasn't instructed to do so.

Lang packs do play tricks with the integrated updates, it's a Windows thing.

As to suddenly being offended, I cannot find a reason and don't have the time for drama.
garlin calls me a liar and you call me "drama". They are quite disrespectful. As for me, this thread is closed. There is no point in continuing with this. If you want, close my account too
 
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