Some problems on Windows 10 1903 18362.1 Build Enterprise x64 pt-pt

So, I did a clean Windows 10 1903 18362.1 Build Enterprise x64 pt-pt install (with KB4507453 integrated so it makes it the 18362.239 build) in the host and in a VM created by Hyper-V using an image created by NTLite and I'm having some problems.
 
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nuhi

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Hi,

thanks for grouping these, the effort is appreciated.

1) Just to make sure I'm testing properly, do you mean if the Settings page is Reset after loading this preset before applying changes to the image, it's ok, if those Settings are applied to the image it's just blue?
2) Can you point to me what's weird about the taskbar? Attached enabled/disabled screenshots of full intact Windows.
3) Try running reagentc /enable in elevated command-line, don't know why would that be disabled for you. Maybe UEFI vs BIOS installs, or if Recovery partition is present.
Tested your preset live quickly, and those options stayed there, this is an UEFI VM.

edit 4) Regarding start menu shortcuts. In the next version it properly cleans OneNote, let me know if you see any remaining leftovers. Let me know if you want a pre-release to try, otherwise it's out next week monday or tuesday. No start menu editing yet, but no icon should be stuck then.
 

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Hi,

thanks for grouping these, the effort is appreciated.

1) Just to make sure I'm testing properly, do you mean if the Settings page is Reset after loading this preset before applying changes to the image, it's ok, if those Settings are applied to the image it's just blue?
2) Can you point to me what's weird about the taskbar? Attached enabled/disabled screenshots of full intact Windows.
3) Try running reagentc /enable in elevated command-line, don't know why would that be disabled for you. Maybe UEFI vs BIOS installs, or if Recovery partition is present.
Tested your preset live quickly, and those options stayed there, this is an UEFI VM.

edit 4) Regarding start menu shortcuts. In the next version it properly cleans OneNote, let me know if you see any remaining leftovers. Let me know if you want a pre-release to try, otherwise it's out next week monday or tuesday. No start menu editing yet, but no icon should be stuck then.
2) The taskbar's color is different from before. Before disabling the search box, its color didn't change (it may not have to do with the search box being disabled because I changed other NTLite's settings, although just one or two more).

4) Do you know a program which can remove Start Menu's icons (like from removed modern apps)?
 

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nuhi

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1) What do I click to get to that panel usually? I don't remember such a panel since the Win8 days.

2) Next time set
"Dark mode for apps"
"Dark mode for Windows"
to Default for default color, enabled for Dark, and disabled for Light themes.
I'll make it more clear in the future instead of current values.

3) Installed your preset, recovery options are there, something is different on your side. Make sure to give the VM enough free space (at least 30GB) and delete all partitions when deploying before selecting the unpartitioned space as the target.

4) No.

5) Go by regedit to HKCU\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer, delete DisableNotificationCenter and reboot.
 
1) What do I click to get to that panel usually? I don't remember such a panel since the Win8 days.

2) Next time set
"Dark mode for apps"
"Dark mode for Windows"
to Default for default color, enabled for Dark, and disabled for Light themes.
I'll make it more clear in the future instead of current values.

3) Installed your preset, recovery options are there, something is different on your side. Make sure to give the VM enough free space (at least 30GB) and delete all partitions when deploying before selecting the unpartitioned space as the target.

4) No.

5) Go by regedit to HKCU\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer, delete DisableNotificationCenter and reboot.
2) Sorry, but could you express yourself better? On NTLite, I have to set "Dark mode for apps" and "Dark mode for Windows" to default? Where can I find Dark and Light themes?

EDIT: So, this time I set "Dark mode for apps" and "Dark mode for Windows" to Default and I no longer have the taskbar's color problem. I don't know why after disabling them I have this problem, though.
 
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nuhi

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1) Just log in for the first time after installing Windows 10 on a VM created by Hyper-V.

2) Sorry, but could you express yourself better? On NTLite, I have to set "Dark mode for apps" and "Dark mode for Windows" to default? Where can I find Dark and Light themes?

3) I gave way more than 30 GB and when installing Windows 10 on the VM I can't delete the partition where it is installed because the space is already unpartitioned.

5) Thanks, but I was talking about disabling it on NTLite and enabling it on NTLite too afterwards, not after installing Windows. Should I activate the Windows Security Center Service? I don't want to have notifications (on the Action Center and popping out on the right because of it and maybe because Windows Security Center Service is disabled) and may I have any problem if I disable Windows Security Center Service?

EDIT: Forget it, I've found the NTLite setting regarding Action Center.

EDIT 2: So, this time I set "Dark mode for apps" and "Dark mode for Windows" to Default and I no longer have the taskbar's color problem. I don't know why after disabling them I have this problem, though. Also, this time I didn't have the VM blue network panel problem.
1) As said I don't see it, just using the ISO and your preset

2) Seems you solved

3) Let me know when you figure out the difference, my guess is you're removing a driver that VM needs for power saving/recovery, as you said the same ISO works on a different/real machine so it's not a general problem.
Also focus on UEFI vs BIOS install difference, as stated at the beginning. You can install Windows in both modes, see online what is what.

5) Seems you solved
 

BorjaZD

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hello regarding to this question, is there any way to have the dark mode enabled ONLY at the Windows 10 menus (settings, devices, accounts, etc) but disabled in the file explorer? i tried the "Dark mode for apps" and "Dark mode for Windows" but it still shows all in dark (modern apps and file explorer)

thanks
 
1) As said I don't see it, just using the ISO and your preset

2) Seems you solved

3) Let me know when you figure out the difference, my guess is you're removing a driver that VM needs for power saving/recovery, as you said the same ISO works on a different/real machine so it's not a general problem.
Also focus on UEFI vs BIOS install difference, as stated at the beginning. You can install Windows in both modes, see online what is what.

5) Seems you solved
Here you said you already replied to these two points but when did you do it? If you're talking about this reply, like I told you I still have the problem in 2004 and I'm not using MSMG ToolKit's DISM to remove things but MSMG ToolKit's ToolKitHelper, which is a different component removal method. And again, you didn't reply me in that post (and in the next one) regarding the fact that in 2017 you said you wanted NTLite to be compatible with any working Windows install, regardless what was done to it prior, but in the last year you said the opposite, so you've changed your mind. I don't know why you closed this thread since I've been always using NTLite's latest versions when testing, I still have some problems (now on 2004) and I think I described them well enough. Anyway and again, even after using NTLite only I still have the third issue so it's not MSMG ToolKit's fault.
 

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cor blimey, if i sat in the Spurs stand and shouted "come one Arsenal" just once id get the crap kicked out of me let alone 6 times :p
 
cor blimey, if i sat in the Spurs stand and shouted "come one Arsenal" just once id get the crap kicked out of me let alone 6 times :p
Good for you.

So, this time I used NTLite only in a 19041.1 Enterprise x64 pt-pt image with the latest updates integrated.

Windows doesn't install a driver in "System devices" and a hidden driver shows up in "Other devices" as "Unknown device" on Device Manager on a VM created by Hyper-V. According to what I searched, the first driver is Hyper-V Virtual Machine Bus Provider and the latter is Microsoft Hyper-V Virtual Machine Bus. I used a Windows 10 Enterprise 19041.1 x64 pt-pt image on the VM too. If I uninstall both drivers on Device Manager and click on the "Scan for hardware changes" setting, Hyper-V Virtual Machine Bus Provider driver isn't reinstalled unlike the Hyper-V Virtual Machine Bus one (which shows up as "Unknown device" again). I tried integrating the latest updates only and the first driver doesn't even show up and the second still shows up as "Unknown device".
 

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nuhi

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1) Can you try the (Locked) version of the same setting, also other options for those Start folders to see if it's isolated case or none of it works.
I see nothing wrong with how it's set, however if you don't run the normal ISO install it's unlocked version of the setting is not supported by Windows.

2) Hm, I see it after applying this preset. Have you tried to restart the machine normally from the Start menu while holding the Shift button on the keyboard? It is the same effect as the Advanced Startup button.

3) Try not using Features On Demand to disable HyperV and such, just remove it under Components.
As I do not control those methods, Windows does.

4) Empty rows of removed keyboards, did not find a way to remove those.

- DISM error prompt replied on PM
- Regions are not removable, just language files are. Regions are like metric settings, nothing to remove there, it's just a database of conversions.
 
1) Can you try the (Locked) version of the same setting, also other options for those Start folders to see if it's isolated case or none of it works.
I see nothing wrong with how it's set, however if you don't run the normal ISO install it's unlocked version of the setting is not supported by Windows.

3) Try not using Features On Demand to disable HyperV and such, just remove it under Components.
As I do not control those methods, Windows does.

4) Empty rows of removed keyboards, did not find a way to remove those.

- DISM error prompt replied on PM
- Regions are not removable, just language files are. Regions are like metric settings, nothing to remove there, it's just a database of conversions.
1) Already tried it and it didn't work. Could you tell me why do some settings have a locked setting and others don't, by the way? So, you want me to disable other Start Menu folder shortcuts to see if I also have them? Sorry, but what do you mean by the latter?
 
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nuhi

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1) That makes no sense, cannot replicate, let's ignore it until others report and maybe have a different angle

2) No what, I said cannot replicate, that plus #1 means we are not using the same thing again, it would help if you can upload the image before NTLite for me to try. PM me with the link, and an exact preset, that way we remove all doubt.

3) Right, I have misread the feature config, it's not being uninstalled with FODs.
Then those devices are due to HyperV guest, did you install HyperV Guest Drivers in that host?

4) Nothing happens, or let me know if you find out otherwise.
US keyboard might even produce a BSOD if removed, but those are old notes, maybe it was changed/fixed, no time to retest something so trivial.
Microsoft is in US so they might take English as the default basis for core components.

OneNote, wrote down, will test, until then keep it.

HyperV, What does that have to do with NTLite? If you're telling me it works 100% of time without editing, all the same, same updates just not edited. And it fails 100% of first boots, then tell me what to do.
 

nuhi

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5) replied to PM, but now I see you do not remove EFI boot manager.
Then try does it happen with the full ISO?

6) If an error says missing JScript, check your preset for such components and don't remove them next time:
<c>jscript32 'Internet Explorer JScript - 32 bits'</c>

7)8)9) try keeping Jscript 32 and
<c>mshtml32 'Visualizador HTML do Internet Explorer - 32 bits'</c>
while at it add
<c>edgehtml32 'Visualizador HTML do Edge - 32 bits'</c>
then test without it if all works.

10) don't see anything broken on that screenshot. You probably mean the description on the left is missing, that's in IE HTML engine 64-bit, 32-bit should not remove it unless you started the 32-bit MMC.
 
1) That makes no sense, cannot replicate, let's ignore it until others report and maybe have a different angle

2) No what, I said cannot replicate, that plus #1 means we are not using the same thing again, it would help if you can upload the image before NTLite for me to try. PM me with the link, and an exact preset, that way we remove all doubt.

3) Right, I have misread the feature config, it's not being uninstalled with FODs.
Then those devices are due to HyperV guest, did you install HyperV Guest Drivers in that host?

4) Nothing happens, or let me know if you find out otherwise.
US keyboard might even produce a BSOD if removed, but those are old notes, maybe it was changed/fixed, no time to retest something so trivial.
Microsoft is in US so they might take English as the default basis for core components.

OneNote, wrote down, will test, until then keep it.

HyperV, What does that have to do with NTLite? If you're telling me it works 100% of time without editing, all the same, same updates just not edited. And it fails 100% of first boots, then tell me what to do.
5) replied to PM, but now I see you do not remove EFI boot manager.
Then try does it happen with the full ISO?

6) If an error says missing JScript, check your preset for such components and don't remove them next time:
<c>jscript32 'Internet Explorer JScript - 32 bits'</c>

7)8)9) try keeping Jscript 32 and
<c>mshtml32 'Visualizador HTML do Internet Explorer - 32 bits'</c>
while at it add
<c>edgehtml32 'Visualizador HTML do Edge - 32 bits'</c>
then test without it if all works.

10) don't see anything broken on that screenshot. You probably mean the description on the left is missing, that's in IE HTML engine 64-bit, 32-bit should not remove it unless you started the 32-bit MMC.
I have this problem.
 
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