SystemSettings error on LTSC 1809

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Hi guys,
every time i go to settings -> personalization -> themes i have an error pop up with the following message: SystemSettings.exe - the system detected an overrun of stack-based buffer in this application


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i've attached my ntlite removal list. Does anybody have a clue on what is causing this error?

thanks in advance
 

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Hi,

thanks, tried it but cannot replicate, with that preset Themes open up just fine.

I noticed there is a big warning on top it requires Windows Activation, so make sure that is not tampered with.

Make sure to use the latest NTLite from ntlite.com/download
In the preset it states "1.8.0.6790", which is very old and lacks on many fixes, so it could be that as well.

Btw did you also watch the Youtube video where the author stated that particular version was stable for him or it's a coincidence?
Please always use the latest, and if you still have the issue, retry without NTLite editing to isolate the cause.

Let me know how it goes.
 
Hi and thanks for your reply.
So i've investigated further an it doesn't depend by the settings or ntlite but it's because i've disabled some services, so all good!
 
I got that error if I try to open up network settings by the new control panel on Win 20h1 .208 x64 , windows 10 17763.1192 LTSC and also on 18363.815 ...
So far after so many attempts i give up and i am still on windows 10.14393.3659 LTSB which i can modify at a bare-bone level and without any troubles .
 

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Thanks FLCL and balanadi, it's the "Windows Push Notifications Service (WNS)" component.
You can also see it by simply stopping the "WpnUserService" on a live install.

Please keep this component for now, let's see if MS will fix this in the meantime, this dependency shouldn't be there.
 
I wonder if disabling the polling API might help in some cases.
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I wonder if disabling the polling API might help in some cases.
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Nice try, and will add that tweak, but unfortunately it did not help this particular dependency.
 
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SystemSettings.exe - the system detected an overrun of stack-based buffer in this application
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ive had the exact same error on modified(i thought it was due to pebkac) and non modified(proves it wasnt pebkac) ltsc's.
"overrun of stack based buffer" errors are happening on other things too and word is it is a MS programming error. its not a recent bug either, its a long standing problem and partly why it makes w10 a no go until its fixed.
 
Can't remember. It was someone's tech blog, and his domain was later hijacked by a squatter.
 
I am getting a lot of those stack overrun errors while working at my barebone W10 22H2. They all originate from system components distributed in appx format, because I have removed the Store and many appx services and components. For example, for most system settings ("immersive"-cr@p panels) you still need to keep AppxDeploymentService and RuntimeBroker. Also Windows Update Service and Client License Service seem needed for them. Now I restored them (sigh) and most things work except Network & Internet Settings (as per original post). I must check if restoring Windows Push Notification Service fixes this problem... Too much interwined cr@p
 
Hello.
  • Disable Themes service and you'll get that error when openning Personalization/Themes.
  • Disable AppXSvc service and you'll break System/About page. (easily replaceable with the Win 7 asset)
  • Disable WpnService/WpnUserService services and you'll break Network and Focus Assist pages.
  • Disable TokenBroker service and you'll break System/Clipboard page, and also couldn't set an account image.
Coming from someone who runs W10 LTSC under 30 processes. Hope it helps.
 
However I checked. Yes, Windows Push Notification Service (System only) is required for Network & Internet settings panel to work.
In addition, Shell Experience Host plus Taskbar Popups (as expected) are required for those taskbar popups (Internet, Audio, Clock/Calendar...) to work.
Since the Taskbar is very problematic and has lots of unexpected dependencies, I suggest adding a Compatibility option to protect the TaskBar, and even one to protect the various Settings panels...
 
The real problem is that System Settings is a moving target. Unlike the separate Control Panels before Settings, it's one monolithic app. So now it's prone to crashing based on an ever increasing dependency on other Windows services to gather status.

What's required in one Windows release (going from early W10 to W11 24H2) versus another, ends up to be an unmanageable list. I'm just saying you could end up having Comparability mode telling you to protect some service, but it's not required for that Windows release.

So the only working solution is for everyone to share their experiences & fixes.
 
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