NTLite 1.7.2.6623 | 1.8.0.6623

dmd said:
Managed eventually to make a working LTSC2019N (the only big issue I had was with Internet Explorer component breaking Cortana when removed, keeping that in solves the issue, previously, in LTSB I could remove IE with no Cortana issue).

Did a few tests in order to compare the installation size, same preset on all of them and made the iso for LTSC also with an older NTLite (1.7.0.6545) and it yields simliar with LTSB installation size ~1.4GB less and ISO size ~700MB less than when using latest NTLite, but Cortana is non functional (Faulting application name: SearchUI.exe, version: 10.0.17763.1, time stamp: 0x5b9c5812/Faulting module name: Windows.UI.Xaml.dll, version: 10.0.17763.165, time stamp: 0x4b439076). DISM broken with both LTSC trials.
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Care to share your preset?
 
dmd said:
Nothing changed in that area and same non functional Cortana when removing IE, same broken DISM

Windows looks more and more like a house of cards (without Kevin Spacey) and any tool like NTLite is doomed to become one too (already is)... start wondering if all this time invested in this area pays up compared with having a slightly bloated Windows in the first place... I think eventually I will go with vanilla LTSC(N) and disable some services/apps, use some well known tweaks for optimizing and leave this NTLite stuff to others...
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The problem is always Windows, plus N versions block some basic functions usefull with Android device, all automatized Tools can do mistakes when for get a better work in area A they must interfere with area B and back on.
 
dmd said:
Nothing changed in that area and same non functional Cortana when removing IE, same broken DISM

Windows looks more and more like a house of cards (without Kevin Spacey) and any tool like NTLite is doomed to become one too (already is)... start wondering if all this time invested in this area pays up compared with having a slightly bloated Windows in the first place... I think eventually I will go with vanilla LTSC(N) and disable some services/apps, use some well known tweaks for optimizing and leave this NTLite stuff to others...
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Everybody's talking about that LTSC (N?) version. What's the difference between it and the Enterprise edition and what if I wanted to use some (few) UWP apps (among other functions that could not be available in it)? Would I be able to integrate them? I feel the same, there are always problems when removing/configuring stuff, even more when there are new Windows versions.
 
dmd said:
Nothing changed in that area and same non functional Cortana when removing IE, same broken DISM

Windows looks more and more like a house of cards (without Kevin Spacey) and any tool like NTLite is doomed to become one too (already is)... start wondering if all this time invested in this area pays up compared with having a slightly bloated Windows in the first place... I think eventually I will go with vanilla LTSC(N) and disable some services/apps, use some well known tweaks for optimizing and leave this NTLite stuff to others...
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I'm going to stick to Windows 10 1803 with just apps removed and the telemetry client and a few bigger stuff that takes a lot of space, like Windows Update. Removing beyond that feels more gimicky than anything else, I can't even remove Internet Explorer without breaking something that makes it not possible to set Firefox as my standard browser. I've come to realise, for me that saving 1 GB of space is not worth the potential breakage that could come from it.
 
Windows 10 User said:
Everybody's talking about that LTSC (N?) version. What's the difference between it and the Enterprise edition and what if I wanted to use some (few) UWP apps (among other functions that could not be available in it)? Would I be able to integrate them? I feel the same, there are always problems when removing/configuring stuff, even more when there are new Windows versions.
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N block some functions/drivers so is not the best choice for us private users.
The best result on 1809 is the Server Essentials 2019 is "lite" as LTSC or even better.
With same preset every newer w10 iso uses more resources.... win8.1 is x4 better 500mb ram w10 vs 180mb 8.1 ( both x64 bit ) in VirtualBox.
 
I gave up with server editions, programs and drivers would not install, i dont know how to edit driver files so they will work, gimme a mainstream os, any edition and i can get acceptable results going lite and with services disabled. Acceptable differs user to user.
 
LIINdd said:
I'm going to stick to Windows 10 1803 with just apps removed and the telemetry client and a few bigger stuff that takes a lot of space, like Windows Update. Removing beyond that feels more gimicky than anything else, I can't even remove Internet Explorer without breaking something that makes it not possible to set Firefox as my standard browser. I've come to realise, for me that saving 1 GB of space is not worth the potential breakage that could come from it.
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Ok.
 
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dmd said:
LTSB(C) is windows as it should be, without bloatware (there's still some, but much less than in the regular channel edition, no Store, no stupid apps), N variant is further stripped from a bunch of other useless (for me) stuff like Media Player, Groove Music, Movies & TV, Voice Recorder and so on.
Using NTLite on a LTSB(C)-N edition one can even further strip down to whatever he needs... did that with LTSB-N and was more than ok with what I got (LTSC still seems to be WIP/beta with NTLite).
Android (mobile) devices can still be used with N editions by extracting and installing the Windows Portable Devices package from the regular edition and the missing functions are just what I need if by missing functions you mean bloatware apps that no one needs.
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Im with you on all but not sure if is easy as you say for the mobile devices.
 
After removing the First Logon Animation with MSMG ToolKit, creating an ISO and extracted and loaded its components in NTLite it is set off by default but I can set it on. Is it normal?

I still can't install the latest CU (in this case KB4467708) through Windows Update after integrating the previous one (KB4464455) and the latest SSU (KB4465664) and removing and integrating some things with NTLite (see the preset). I used NTLite's latest version and Windows 10 1809 Build 17763.1 x64 version. Now I have the 0x80070032 error (before I had the 0x800f081f error). An Adobe Flash Player update still shows up in Windows Update despite having removed Adobe Flash Player with NTLite (and the update is successfully installed). Also, I don't know if it was caused by integrating updates but the setup was much slower than usual.
 
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Paraf said:
Hello;
I am using "Windows 8.1". It contained 167 services. The result of "Ntlite" was 42 pieces of service. 125 reduced service. Very good to reduce services. Ram, cpu, hd; much more relaxed. Deleting unnecessary data. Removing a lot of services in the latest version.
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151 services disabled out of 170 and still boots. Compare Handles Threads and Processes in the screen grab.
Handles and Threads reduced by half(ish), Processes by 1/3rd. If you doit by component removal instead those are the gains that are possible aswell as a smaller os footprint and more secure because of less vulnerabilities.
 
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Windows 10 User said:
I still can't install the latest CU (in this case KB4467708) through Windows Update after integrating the previous one (KB4464455) and the latest SSU (KB4465664) and removing and integrating some things with NTLite (see the preset). I used NTLite's latest version and Windows 10 1809 Build 17763.1 x64 version. Now I have the 0x80070032 error (before I had the 0x800f081f error). An Adobe Flash Player update still shows up in Windows Update despite having removed Adobe Flash Player with NTLite (and the update is succesfully installed). Also, I don't know if it was caused by integrating updates but the setup was much slower than usual.

EDIT: Is there a way to remove Internet Explorer without breaking the information next to each service in services.msc?
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Cannot replicate this, CU installs fine here on latest NTLite and your preset (tried both, CU and Admin permission reported one).
WU after that downloads something fast (Microsoft-OneCore-Graphics-Tools-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~.cab) and is satisfied.

I might get your exact image (Portuguese?) if you get the same issue on the next reinstall, while using only NTLite for the duration of the test.
 
nuhi said:
Cannot replicate this, CU installs fine here on latest NTLite and your preset (tried both, CU and Admin permission reported one).
WU after that downloads something fast (Microsoft-OneCore-Graphics-Tools-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~.cab) and is satisfied.

I might get your exact image (Portuguese?) if you get the same issue on the next reinstall, while using only NTLite for the duration of the test.
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I only used NTLite and I don't know what is that thing you downloaded (Microsoft-OneCore-Graphics-Tools-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~.cab) since it never showed up in my WU.

Yes, it was a pt-pt image. The ISO's name was 17763.1.180914-1434.RS5_RELEASE_CLIENTENTERPRISE_VOL_X64FRE_PT-PT.
 
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nuhi said:
I might get your exact image (Portuguese?) if you get the same issue on the next reinstall, while using only NTLite for the duration of the test.
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The first 1809 release (preset's info):
Windows 10 Enterprise (1809) 64-bits - Client 10.0.17763.1 (pt-PT)
 
I keep having issues with NVidia CP disappearing and context menu taking a long time to show up, but I can't pinpoint which component is responsible for that...
 
dmd said:
I had it configured for unattended install, except the dangerous(?) wipe disk/create partition part.
Used NTLite 1.7.1.5693, source en_windows_10_enterprise_ltsc_2019_x64_dvd_74865958.
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Is this the NTLite build you made the working LTSC + working cortana and lowest size?

Currently I tried both latest regular and beta of NTLite and both on latest LTSC iso with all cortana dependencies and Internet explorer in i get the same searchui.exe crash. Also the size is way higher than my old LTSB 2016 which is around 1.8GB stripped, whearas LTSC is still almost 3GB.

Current NTlite is definately way from 1809 proof :-(
 
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