Remove Internet Explorer without breaking the MMC Extended View

I'll tell you another thing about alternative means/competing products. There are a shed load of file and registry leftovers and searching for them takes hours. You need to know which files to actually remove. I know how to do this but i aint discussing it.
 
Do not know. I only know powershell scripts that are limited because they only remove Metro Apps or prevent System Apps from being installed but do not remove them from the image.

Since you can no longer use Dism or install_wim_tweak.exe to remove components in the latest builds of Windows 10 I at least do not know of any tool capable of removing components in a live install other than NTLite.

In that case what i know that used to work may not anymore.
Powersmell scripts are too complicated for me. I didnt know dism/the other thing doesnt work on new builds.
If you cant remove due to a dependancy/technical limitation, tweak.
 
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Powersmell scripts are too complicated for me. I didnt know dism/the other thing doesnt work on new builds.
If you cant remove due to a dependancy/technical limitation, tweak.

Using Powershell scripts is not difficult, just learn the parameters that need to be passed and adjust according to your need but create the scripts or understand the code for me is very confusing, if I have to learn this I prefer a efficient programming language and robust as C++. I do not like anything related to .NET and I avoid making use of this. And it is possible to do almost everything I need with batch scripts that are much simpler to write and understand.

I only use scripts so I can understand what it does. Most ready-made scripts make unnecessary tweaks or add registry entries that are not needed or that do not work so I avoid them and try to make my own.
 
Ready mades are a great learning tool(and for cherry picking) and even basic ones like my simple contributions are easy to write now, i dont know everything about them but i know enough. :) I use TairikuOkami's
 
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Yes, all I know I learned by looking at scripts made by others and reading the documentation of each command (command /? or command --help in the case of Linux) some are really well done and you can learn a lot :)
 
Linux, eek. Debian Mate Live, is good, wont go into it too much.
FF esr is finicky on it, some pages dont display correctly. Luckily 8.1 works well enough on i3 8300 using the igpu and basic ms display driver, intel dont have an 8.1 driver but the ms one works well enough for basic duties.
 
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Debian is great was the lightest distro I've tested but a bit outdated. The problem with Linux is to be up to date, light and stable at the same time. What comes closest to that is Arch Linux, but updates are too frequent. Another problem is the graphic interfaces that are heavy. I plan to use Linux again with some lightweight DE like XFCE or Mate to see how it is currently :)
 
I used debian 4 etch many moons ago and liked it. Tried ubuntu and didnt like the new fancy desktops, i like old skool start menus etc. Try the Mate live 9.9 iso, the main iso branch has all the desktops, you choose which one during setup.

Got tired of the me too distros, had problems with them, went back to the source. :)
 
Ubuntu and its derivatives are nothing stable, much less light. You lose all the benefit of using Linux better to stay with Windows then. Even the LTS versions, which are outdated also then Debian I think is a better option in that case. For the programs that you need to update you can use the backports feature and keep only one specific program updated or another. I do not know much about it but I know it exists :p
 
I do but i wont be telling you because i do not think its fair to nuhi to constantly discuss alternative ways/competing products here(none of which i use). Its like standing outside McDonalds door handing out leaflets for Burger King.

You have been told before about this, we even asked nicely but you still keep doing it. You lurk elsewhere, ask there.

I don't remember asking about it.
 
In that case what i know that used to work may not anymore.
Powersmell scripts are too complicated for me. I didnt know dism/the other thing doesnt work on new builds.
If you cant remove due to a dependancy/technical limitation, tweak.

To use Dism you need a tweak in a registry key to make each package visible to be removed by Dism and this key has protection so you need to take ownership of it and change the permissions or use NSudo. Dism is a Microsoft tool.

install_wim_tweak.exe does something similar but uses another Windows tool to remove packages similar to Dism.

Win Toolkit I think it uses the same method of install_wim_tweak.exe to remove packages but has a GUI. But they all leave leftovers or remove parts that are needed for other features (Example: Removing Windows Search will lose the search in Windows Explorer). Then NTLite is superior because it removes more files/registry keys and does not break features.

Also the latest version of Windows 10 fully compatible with the remove packages method was version 1607 (build 14393) in the new builds several components had the packages merged and can not be removed with install_wim_tweak.exe and its similar ones. And from what I realized Windows 10 User always uses the latest version of Windows 10 so for him the only option would be NTLite.
 
Dism'ing is a lot of bloody work, A LOT, compared to liting and the end results dont, a lot of work for little reward to me.
Tweaking gives me great results for not a lot of work plus i can share them here.
True, DISM has a steep learning curve, it's very complicated to use, especially for the beginners. I always recommend NTLite for everyone, because it's fastest, easiest and most reliable tool to remove Windows Components. :)
 
Do not know. I only know powershell scripts that are limited because they only remove Metro Apps or prevent System Apps from being installed but do not remove them from the image.

Since you can no longer use Dism or install_wim_tweak.exe to remove components in the latest builds of Windows 10 I at least do not know of any tool capable of removing components in a live install other than NTLite.

I've never used install_wim_tweak but where did you see it and DISM can't be used to remove components in the latest Windows 10 builds? When you talk about the latest Windows 10 builds, are you referring to the latest ones starting with the 1607 version?

To use Dism you need a tweak in a registry key to make each package visible to be removed by Dism and this key has protection so you need to take ownership of it and change the permissions or use NSudo. Dism is a Microsoft tool.



install_wim_tweak.exe does something similar but uses another Windows tool to remove packages similar to Dism.



Win Toolkit I think it uses the same method of install_wim_tweak.exe to remove packages but has a GUI. But they all leave leftovers or remove parts that are needed for other features (Example: Removing Windows Search will lose the search in Windows Explorer). Then NTLite is superior because it removes more files/registry keys and does not break features.



Also the latest version of Windows 10 fully compatible with the remove packages method was version 1607 (build 14393) in the new builds several components had the packages merged and can not be removed with install_wim_tweak.exe and its similar ones. And from what I realized Windows 10 User always uses the latest version of Windows 10 so for him the only option would be NTLite.

Since I can't use NTLite's live install and other programs to remove components I'll always have to do a clean install when a new Windows 10 major version is out.
 
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I've never used install_wim_tweak but where did you see it and DISM can't be used to remove components in the latest Windows 10 builds? When you talk about the latest Windows 10 builds, are you referring to the latest ones starting with the 1607 version?

install_wim_tweak is a command line tool with no GUI. It's not hard to find if you search on google. Yes, any version above the 1607 version has packages that can not be removed by Dism or install_wim_tweak beginning with version 1703.

Since I can't use NTLite's live install and other programs to remove components I'll always have to do a clean install when a new Windows 10 major version is out.

Either way it is not good to remove components in a live system that you use daily. Especially if it is after an upgrade to a version of Windows that came out recently. It is always good to test in a VM before it takes a while until a new version has the bugs fixed in NTLite. Version 1903 for example has changed a lot and NTLite is still fixing bugs.
 
Either way it is not good to remove components in a live system that you use daily. Especially if it is after an upgrade to a version of Windows that came out recently. It is always good to test in a VM before it takes a while until a new version has the bugs fixed in NTLite. Version 1903 for example has changed a lot and NTLite is still fixing bugs.

Well, even after some time NTLite causes problems in previous versions after doing a clean install so I can't imagine in a new version. What I do first is test the edited image by MSMG ToolKit and NTLite on a VM (Hyper-V) and if I have no problems install in the host so it's annoying because instead of removing components in a live install I (if I don't have any problems in the VM or it could be even more annoying) install twice the OS.

EDIT: Do you know if after removing Content Delivery Manager on 19H1 I'm directly taken on the OOBE to the Local Account part where I have to choose a name for it (instead of being taken to this part) when I might not always want to create a Local Account but use an already created Microsoft Account?

Also, I've yet to install 19H1 but the empty folders inside my Document's folder are being deleted against my will after turning on the PC after some days. I did a clean Windows 10 install (I used an untouched 1809 x64 image) some months ago.
 
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Windows 10 User yes but this is due to the nature of Windows. If you want a fully modular system where you can remove components and their dependencies without compromising the components that are kept best use Linux. And many bugs are only discovered later when someone reports the problem. It is not possible to test all scenarios yourself.

Why not test the new version of Windows by removing what you want after install in a VM before installing in PC? Do you install first in PC after testing on a VM with the removing? If you are going to install a new OS anyway it is better to remove everything you need first and do a clean install already with everything removed.

I only see 2 utilities in doing the removals in a live system:

- You have a system installed for some time and for some reason can not do a clean installation;
- To test removals on a VM using snapshots so if something goes wrong it's quick to get back to the untouched system to test again. It is much faster than generating another ISO.
 
EDIT: Do you know if after removing Content Delivery Manager on 19H1 I'm directly taken on the OOBE to the Local Account part where I have to choose a name for it (instead of being taken to this part) when I might not always want to create a Local Account but use an already created Microsoft Account?

I do not know about that. Are there any known bug when removing Content Delivery Manager? What I know to appear the screen of the Microsoft Account is simply connected to the internet and not use the file autounattend.xml

Also, I've yet to install 19H1 but the empty folders inside my Document's folder are being deleted against my will after turning on the PC after some days. I did a clean Windows 10 install (I used an untouched 1809 x64 image) some months ago.

Have you installed Windows updates? Version 1809 had a similar bug but was fixed with an update and only happened when upgrading in place to version 1809.
 
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