GamerOS Windows 10 & 11 DIY Preset

Clanger said:
oh yes i bleeding well woulkd know because windows would through a fit or this or that wouldnt work and so far i havnt seen anything.
its all about experimentation and testing. you dont know my needs and im telling you i can go a lot further than everyone else here, be it tweaks or removals.

what should i do? share what i find in the true forum spirit(put back some of what i have learned from forums over the years) or say eff it and screw you lot and keep it all to myself eh?
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I will have to try it and see how my movie clips/game react to the removal. Usually I see something there if it makes things worse. After that a latency test and if it all passes then it should be good to go.

Will give it a backup and test tonight.
 
Hello! I need a german keyboard layout! Could someone tell me pls how i add it with ntlite? Can I also use this config for daily use? A bit of Youtube, Internet surfing and checking mails?
Cheers
 
Does anyone know if this edit works well with Genshin impact? i mean if there is something that will get me banned because of some changes in system. i run genshin on a debloated windows using debloat scripts and etc. but this is nothing compared to using some script from github.
 
GoldenTDW said:
Does anyone know if this edit works well with Genshin impact? i mean if there is something that will get me banned because of some changes in system. i run genshin on a debloated windows using debloat scripts and etc. but this is nothing compared to using some script from github.
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Genshin goes with in game hacks to ban, i doubt the OS will cause an issue
 
Can anyone help me? I'm trying to do this with the windows 11 version. But when I did it it still came out with 140 process running. Any help? I've followed every step.
 
Devvult said:
Can anyone help me? I'm trying to do this with the windows 11 version. But when I did it it still came out with 140 process running. Any help? I've followed every step.
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What exactly are you trying to do?
 
Good afternoon community. I'm new, I just bought the ntlite license. I have an Aorus 15P laptop with the following characteristics:

  • i7 11800H
  • 16GB DDR4-RAM
  • 3080 8GB

I'm a hardcore CSGO and Valorant player, I'm going to install Windows 11 with the files attached Txmmy and tell you how the performance is.

Benchmarks
Windows 10 without tweaks: 350
Project Nobara: 655 FPS (Linux)
Windows 11: To be defined

I hope that being a laptop, this does not bring me problems with Bluetooth devices, and also Wifi sensors.

Greetings.
 
Update:

Yesterday I installed Windows 10 with the .xml file and the errors present were:
Do not bring any web browser, this makes things quite complicated, at least leave Edge, which does not consume anything.

The search bar below stopped working.

The keyboard language is pre-defined as English despite changing it to "Spanish".

The taskbar on the right is gone, this is functional, for people with 2 monitors or more to see notifications.

Being able to search for files doesn't work either, you can be a gamer, but this is important.

The Windows store is disabled, this brings errors with applications that require the App Store to be installed, denying access to new applications.
 
ZeDfriT, benchmarks are always great to see, I look forward to your final results.

You wrote "350" for Windows 10 without tweaks, but using what program? The number is meaningless to us without that info at the moment :)

I can all but guarantee your laptop will bring you problems unfortunately. There is a lot of throttling that goes on, some of which you cannot control on a laptop. They aren't gaming devices, and the ones that are marketed as such, are just that--marketing. Run something like LatencyMon and check out those results for important benchmarking aspects. You should really invest in a cooling pad too, because laptops have poor cooling for gaming. Thermaltake makes a good one that I've tried.

As far as stuff breaking, that is expected. Removing components will cause various things to break. This preset removes a lot, and so you can expect a lot to break. Windows wasn't built with removals in mind, it's not modular. And so when you build a preset it takes a lot of trial and error to get it "right" for each individual user. That's not saying anything negative about this preset, a lot of people are okay with certain things breaking because they don't use those things. If you want to remedy those you have to untick certain components from the preset. Xbox and Microsoft Store get broken in a lot of presets for example since their components are removed, but you can uncheck those if you need them.
 
Hellbovine said:
ZeDfriT, benchmarks are always great to see, I look forward to your final results.

You wrote "350" for Windows 10 without tweaks, but using what program? The number is meaningless to us without that info at the moment :)

I can all but guarantee your laptop will bring you problems unfortunately. There is a lot of throttling that goes on, some of which you cannot control on a laptop. They aren't gaming devices, and the ones that are marketed as such, are just that--marketing. Run something like LatencyMon and check out those results for important benchmarking aspects. You should really invest in a cooling pad too, because laptops have poor cooling for gaming. Thermaltake makes a good one that I've tried.

As far as stuff breaking, that is expected. Removing components will cause various things to break. This preset removes a lot, and so you can expect a lot to break. Windows wasn't built with removals in mind, it's not modular. And so when you build a preset it takes a lot of trial and error to get it "right" for each individual user. That's not saying anything negative about this preset, a lot of people are okay with certain things breaking because they don't use those things. If you want to remedy those you have to untick certain components from the preset. Xbox and Microsoft Store get broken in a lot of presets for example since their components are removed, but you can uncheck those if you need them.
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350 fps in csgo BenchMark map by Ulletical.

655 fps aprox in Nobara project.. is a Fedora Mod. But the problem with this O.S is the other games.. or anti-cheat not work on Linux. For example Valorant anticheat.

In this right moment in fresh installation with .xml file on Windows 11 have 80 processes. Super smooth. I go to installe Grapich card and test csgo.
 
ZeDfriT said:
Being able to search for files doesn't work either, you can be a gamer, but this is important.

The Windows store is disabled, this brings errors with applications that require the App Store to be installed, denying access to new applications.
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Desktop search is removed (Microsoft.549981C3F5F10 'Cortana').
Free Store apps can be sideloaded, or integrated into the image. Paid apps or DLC still requires the actual Store for purchasing.

This preset is a starting point, feel free to undo removals if they don't fit your needs.
 
Ladies and gentlemen, I enclose the BenchMark made on 10/13/2022.
BONUS: I also attached a photo of the consumption and processes. Greetings. The processes it shows are with Google Chrome open and also CSGO.

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If I may make some suggestions for benchmarking...

1) Every benchmark needs to be done the same, and without other things running in parallel (no Chrome, etcetera), for consistency.

2) Wait until all your benchmarking is totally done and post it all at once, rather than in bits and pieces in a lot of separate posts, otherwise it becomes too hard to follow.

3) Maybe post screenshots as attachments or thumbnails, these really large images are hard on the eyes scrolling through the forum.

Basically, benchmarks should be in a "before and after" comparison all in one post, such as this example:

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Note: All benchmarks use the in-game CSGO benchmarking tool.
Windows 10 22H2 Default Install: 600 frames per second
Windows 10 22H2 GamerOS Preset: 650 frames per second
Windows 11 22H2 Default Install: 600 frames per second
Windows 11 22H2 GamerOS Preset: 650 frames per second
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Also, on this note your processes and handles are really high, which makes me think you didn't install this preset on that recent benchmark? Is that the "before" images you are posting? If you look at Txmmy's screenshots his task manager is much different. You need to make sure you're providing all the relevant information people need, otherwise it's all pointless and not helpful. Not trying to be a downer here, just constructive criticism, this is the type of thing people do which is why the internet is full of bad information, because the benchmarking was never done, or was done incorrectly.
 
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Hellbovine said:
If I may make some suggestions for benchmarking...

1) Every benchmark needs to be done the same, and without other things running in parallel (no Chrome, etcetera), for consistency.

2) Wait until all your benchmarking is totally done and post it all at once, rather than in bits and pieces in a lot of separate posts, otherwise it becomes too hard to follow.

3) Maybe post screenshots as attachments or thumbnails, these really large images are hard on the eyes scrolling through the forum.

Basically, benchmarks should be in a "before and after" comparison all in one post, such as this example:

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Note: All benchmarks use the in-game CSGO benchmarking tool.
Windows 10 22H2 Default Install: 600 frames per second
Windows 10 22H2 GamerOS Preset: 650 frames per second
Windows 11 22H2 Default Install: 600 frames per second
Windows 11 22H2 GamerOS Preset: 650 frames per second
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Also, on this note your processes and handles are really high, which makes me think you didn't install this preset on that recent benchmark? Is that the "before" images you are posting? If you look at Txmmy's screenshots his task manager is much different. You need to make sure you're providing all of the relevant information people need, otherwise it's all pointless and not helpful. Not trying to be a downer here, just constructive criticism, this is the type of thing people do which is why the internet is full of bad information, because the benchmarking was never done, or was done incorrectly.
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Goodnight.
My native language is not English.
Therefore, some things I may not explain very well, I apologize.

The environment where I did the BenchMark at the moment were:
Windows 10 ORIGINAL: 350-400 FPS.
Windows 10 (GamerOS) I did not try it, things that I considered useful did not work for me, such as the taskbar and the sidebar.

The Nobara project was the one that gave me the most FPS... but it is Linux.
Windows 11 GamerOS shot me 600 FPS..

Everything was tested under the same conditions. Same Benchmark, no programs running in the background. What was seen from my task manager was when I had Chrome open, but not at the time of the cs BenchMark.
HUG, ZED.
 
Please correct me if I'm mistaken, but what I'm gathering from the recent replies (I haven't tried this preset yet myself, I do plan to eventually though) is that the screenshot on the original post on the first page is based on all of your post-setup stuff. That screenshot is showing 50% less task manager resources overall than what people are actually seeing from the preset itself, by the looks of it.

I truly believe this is an honest mistake and no foul intended, but it sets up unrealistic expectations for people that want to try this preset, and is misinformation as-is. Could you perhaps either update that screenshot of the task manager, and/or add your post-install stuff to the original post please?

Also, if you have a chance at some point, a screenshot of LatencyMon on a clean install without drivers for this preset would be really helpful for a lot of people to see too. You can just screenshot the first page, you don't have to include all the other tabs. Let it run for about 10 mins preferably.

A last bit of suggestion I noticed while perusing the pages on this thread, is it sounds like there are some crucial components that a few people like Garlin pointed out that really shouldn't be removed for just about any preset. If those components haven't already been reported to Nuhi, it would be a very good idea to do so, that way he can fix up the built-in NTLite presets too.

Keep up the good work :)
 
Txmmy and I had a few conversations when this thread was relatively short. The goal wasn't a polished, "be everything" preset but a starting point for other people to adapt. Hence the DIY label -- which most readers overlook. He's aware of many factors, since he made all the same learning mistakes everyone's done. It's nearly impossible to have a "perfect" OS.

If you have the luxury of having a dedicated, pure gaming PC then you can sacrifice many services and features for top performance. Having another PC around to do normal apps means you don't miss anything. But most people don't have two PC's.

You make compromises because you need this or that app running. Those requirements will be different for everyone.

The way he developed the preset was dividing it into three phases. A removals preset, a services preset, and a tweaks preset. When he's done, the presets are merged together and tested. Txmmy is sharing this out of his personal research, he's not testing it against every Game X and Game Y.

Can you use the presets out of the box? Yes

Should you do work to adjust the preset? Yes

Should you share your own experiences to help others? Yes
 
Sure, that's all good and well, I have no qualms with any of that. I'm sorry if this is getting misinterpreted as an attack, which is what it sounds like is happening. I'm just asking that the misinformation be fixed, which is the screenshot (or add the post-install tweaks to the post so that we too can use them). This preset simply does not get you to that screenshot, so it's misleading.

Considering that this thread is pinned, and people refer others to it frequently, I don't think this is unreasonable to ask.
 
garlin said:
It's nearly impossible to have a "perfect" OS.
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There has never been, nor will be, a one size fits all to this.
You look at someone elses work(link as an example), you test/cherry pick/adapt to your own needs.

garlin said:
Txmmy is sharing this out of his personal research, he's not testing it against every Game X and Game Y.
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Its impossible for 1 man to know every variable, thats why we share knowledge.
 
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