Windows 10 LTSC 1809 - Optimize Gaming/Poweruser/Runtime Profile, retaining maximum compatibility. For x64/UEFI systems

[MT_]

check if its a known issue with your updates

Yeah often overlooked, windows updates...Pre-integrated or installed afterwards..

Its highly likely you deviated somewhere though as the build works without these problems on a variety of general hardware.

 

[Clanger]

i remember nuhi saying some time back he spends time debugging only to find out its an ms bug. i would try a default install(updates only, no tweaks removals etc) to see if the problem occurs.

Its highly likely you deviated somewhere though as the build works without these problems on a variety of general hardware.

highly possible. its part of the reason i gave up writing presets, once you add a variable anything can happen, you cant be expected to know everything.

 

[Kasual]

Desktop.ini is created when you change a folder view. If you install the registry hacks to force a default view for folder types, Windows won't create as many for you.

One strange bug is Windows pre-installs a few in silly places, like they didn't clean up the folders before burning the ISO.

This is Ms Design.

Find desktop.ini in \Winsxs (the windows backup folder).

 

[evolve]

hello again
finally i got my cpu and installed mt build lol i dont know is this the most garbage mouse graph or its fine
i also using default value of this build which is here (is it the right setting or i messed up something)?
useplatformclock deleted
useplatformtick deleted
disabledynamictick deleted
and manually putted timer on 1ms then did the test multiple times
i also need to add i installed many drivers chipset graphic etc...

 

[MT_]

Doesn't appear to be very clean, but there are dozens of factors which can alter the polling stability results. (most not even related to this profile per se.)

Even general speed of your system can affect it. Its the whole chain which need optimization

Here are some of mine:

 

[evolve]

Doesn't appear to be very clean, but there are dozens of factors which can alter the polling stability results. (most not even related to this profile per se.)

Even general speed of your system can affect it. Its the whole chain which need optimization

Here are some of mine:

holy sh.. your graph is lovely mt right its true btw i was geting much better mouse graph on my old intel than new 3rd gen ryzen i also tested in 1607 result was same
i think i tweaked it after 50 times of restart and test is it better now?
this is best for me and i saw it worked for some other people in overclock forum
useplatformclock deleted
useplatformtick deleted
disabledynamictick yes
here is new graph

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also there is other thing
i assigned the whole usb interrupts to core 2 which is the sleepiest one here is the result
Mouse interrupt is ok and happens on core 2
Keyboard interrupts only happens on core 1 no matter what

 

[MT_]

Ah can't say anything about Ryzen, no experience!

I only know that AMD system might use AMD USB controller or maybe Asmedia third party? And also Ryzen has CCX and maybe higher latency for some stuff, not sure.

Try disabling unnecessary devices (preferably in bios if possible), C-states, etc and run max clocks on all chips!

 

[evolve]

Ah can't say anything about Ryzen, no experience!

I only know that AMD system might use AMD USB controller or maybe Asmedia third party? And also Ryzen has CCX and maybe higher latency for some stuff, not sure.

Try disabling unnecessary devices (preferably in bios if possible), C-states, etc and run max clocks on all chips!

thanks i updated the previous post if u didn't see my other question

I only know that AMD system might use AMD USB controller or maybe Asmedia third party

yes its amd controller

And also Ryzen has CCX and maybe higher latency for some stuff, not sure.

yes it has more latency. but i was thinking its only for double ccd processors like 3900x not 3600 but yeah it has 2 thing under it heat spreader

Try disabling unnecessary devices (preferably in bios if possible), C-states, etc and run max clocks on all chips!

not possible for my motherboard i don't have control over many of these factors but thanks for remembering this to me

also one stupid question i don't know how i disabled windowskey its not working on my keyboard anymore?

 

[MT_]

thanks i updated the previous post if u didn't see my other question


yes its amd controller

yes it has more latency. but i was thinking its only for double ccd processors like 3900x not 3600 but yeah it has 2 thing under it heat spreader
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not possible for my motherboard i don't have control over many of these factors but thanks for remembering this to me

also one stupid question i don't know how i disabled windowskey its not working on my keyboard anymore?

Heh, I had no control over these features until i flashed my new mainboard with custom mod bios which exposed the whole 'chipset' section and you can disable pci-e root ports and other stuff!

Windows key disable is a registry tweak I think included in the profile package

 

[evolve]

Heh, I had no control over these features until i flashed my new mainboard with custom mod bios which exposed the whole 'chipset' section and you can disable pci-e root ports and other stuff!

Windows key disable is a registry tweak I think included in the profile package

thanks alot mt
unfortunately there is no moded bios for my model so i can go to device manager right ?
but there is a user on overclock forum his nickname is Roach you might see him he is saying disabling from device manager is not the best way for reducing latency is there any other option beside bios?

 

[MT_]

thanks alot mt
unfortunately there is no moded bios for my model so i can go to device manager right ?
but there is a user on overclock forum his nickname is Roach you might see him he is saying disabling from device manager is not the best way for reducing latency is there any other option beside bios?

In theory disabling devices in device manager should do about the same yes, Its just my OCD that wants me to crush it all from the roots!

Yea I know roach. Some of his things are actually (theoretically) sound, but some I scratch my head on.

You could mod the bios yourself if you know how, but it is risky and I personally have little experience with it so far. I am actually probably going to attempt it on my new laptop at some point and hope I dont screw up

 

[Clanger]

evolve pop over to win-raid for bios modding.
ryzens up to 3000 series are 4 cores per ccx, 2 ccx to a ccu/ccd. a 6 core cpu is 2 active cc's using 3 cores on each. 3600 is a 2 ccx design with both ccx's active, only the 3200g and 3400g and the new 3300x are a single active ccx. the 3300x has 2 ccx's but one is disabled and uses all 4 cores on the other, the 3100 uses 2 cores on each ccx and by the look of it the 3300x is the sweet one, no ccx to ccx latency. the 4000 series is rumoured to have 8 cores on a ccx and the apus maybe be 8 core(8c/16f), the chipsets are still asmedia. the 3300x is the old i7 spec for 120quid, how times have changed.
im sticking to coffee lake/refresh because they will run 7 and 8.1 without fuss, ltsc if i have to. i wont be looking at win 10 until the next ltsc(/whatever)

MT_ i wouldnt bios mod brand new hardware if you have never done it before as you could end up with an expensive paper weight. if you are going toput ltsc on it then you may have trouble with intel igpu driver, some dont like and wont install on ltsc.

 

[MT_]

MT_ i wouldnt bios mod brand new hardware if you have never done it before as you could end up with an expensive paper weight. if you are going toput ltsc on it then you may have trouble with intel igpu driver, some dont like and wont install on ltsc.

I think the laptop has NVIDIA® Optimus so It can switch between Intel and the nvidia 1650.

Do you think it will be problematic?

Maybe Windows comes with a default intel driver ?

 

[Clanger]

Do you think it will be problematic?

its possible, forewarned is forearmed, gives you time to investigate plan b's before you jump in and plan a goes belly up. might be okies with the nvidia driver, they be a lot less fussy. get a non dch driver if you can.

Maybe Windows comes with a default intel driver ?

doubt it

 

[MT_]

Guess I'll see when I get it

 

[Clanger]

if your plans go the same way as mine then "covered in crap".

now pay attention 007

hehehe

 

[MT_]

its possible, forewarned is forearmed, gives you time to investigate plan b's before you jump in and plan a goes belly up. might be okies with the nvidia driver, they be a lot less fussy. get a non dch driver if you can.

doubt it

I just downloaded the DCH driver and upon extracting I see at least a regular driver directory with inf's and stuff. I wonder if i can just update the driver through device manager. (This even works with Nvidia, you just dont get the control panel)

If this does work, mayeb I can just adjust the driver settings through the registry or something. I'm NOT going to enable UWP support for this junk just for a control panel to work. What a load of crap.

 

[Clanger]

use the nvidia non dch link in my siggy, theres a non dch for geforce 1650 on laptops. there is a drivver for 7 but not for 8.1. the 7 one may work on 8.1 though, my gt710 w7 drivers are for 8.1 aswell, its in the filenames. theres no way they are dragging me into uwp and store. dont need any of that crap anyway.

 

[evolve]

evolve pop over to win-raid for bios modding.
ryzens up to 3000 series are 4 cores per ccx, 2 ccx to a ccu/ccd. a 6 core cpu is 2 active cc's using 3 cores on each. 3600 is a 2 ccx design with both ccx's active, only the 3200g and 3400g and the new 3300x are a single active ccx. the 3300x has 2 ccx's but one is disabled and uses all 4 cores on the other, the 3100 uses 2 cores on each ccx and by the look of it the 3300x is the sweet one, no ccx to ccx latency. the 4000 series is rumoured to have 8 cores on a ccx and the apus maybe be 8 core(8c/16f), the chipsets are still asmedia. the 3300x is the old i7 spec for 120quid, how times have changed.
im sticking to coffee lake/refresh because they will run 7 and 8.1 without fuss, ltsc if i have to. i wont be looking at win 10 until the next ltsc(/whatever)

MT_ i wouldnt bios mod brand new hardware if you have never done it before as you could end up with an expensive paper weight. if you are going toput ltsc on it then you may have trouble with intel igpu driver, some dont like and wont install on ltsc.

ah thanks dude just searched in google couldnt find anything will check win-raid too

 

[Clanger]

3300x is the old i7 spec for 120quid, how times have changed.

Ryzen 3 3300X beats the Core i3-10100 by around 9%

oh my, havnt they and the i7 is now an i3