CatSlobber
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Just to quickly add... The Win7 Backup and Restore works fully in Windows 11. I tested it in a VM with an untouched installation. I will try with the tweaks.
GamerOS Windows 10 & 11 DIY Preset
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You're right, I had disabled some services so I was getting errors
So I ask you, did you disable any services or remove other components?
The preset doesn't remove it. What you need to enable is:
Components -> System -> Volume Shadow Copy (API) -> Volume Shadow Copy -> Windows Backup
Also try to keep:
Components -> System -> Encryption File System (EFS) - Service -> Encryption File System (EFS) - Feature -> File History
If its a backup feature you want, why not use GImageX and the inbuilt Recovery Image of windows? I use that here, it works well enough for what it is.
Oh, and I've found that Sometimes Backup and Restore fails if "Workstation" service is not on the default setting (I forgot if default is Automatic (Delayed Start), Automatic, or Manual. This implies Backup and Restore uses SMB protocols for something or another, since (IIRC) this service is a component of SMB.
Oh, and I've found that Sometimes Backup and Restore fails if "Workstation" service is not on the default setting (I forgot if default is Automatic (Delayed Start), Automatic, or Manual. This implies Backup and Restore uses SMB protocols for something or another, since (IIRC) this service is a component of SMB.
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Windows Backup seems to depend on several other components. I hate that. You are required to keep several services running in background for features you might never use.
The services I disabled and cause errors in Windows Backup are related to COM+ components.
COM+ Event System service
COM+ System Application
System Event Notification Service
Distributed Transaction Coordinator
The services I disabled and cause errors in Windows Backup are related to COM+ components.
COM+ Event System service
COM+ System Application
System Event Notification Service
Distributed Transaction Coordinator
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I still have not been able to solve it…
I am using the stock GamerOS preset for testing with nothing else removed. Here’s what I’ve seen:
Tried the tweaks. I enabled Volume Shadow Copy and EFS. Workstation, COM+, Virtual Disk, SENS, and DTC services are all present and active. after installation, I even set every service to run in the list just to test. All without luck.
The other oddity is that the File History service is present and running, but the File History feature will not open when clicked. I have a feeling this is related and I’m missing just one piece of the puzzle.
Edit: tried adding back System Guard, Defender, Security Center, COM+ API, and Action Center. Still no luck.
I am using the stock GamerOS preset for testing with nothing else removed. Here’s what I’ve seen:
Tried the tweaks. I enabled Volume Shadow Copy and EFS. Workstation, COM+, Virtual Disk, SENS, and DTC services are all present and active. after installation, I even set every service to run in the list just to test. All without luck.
The other oddity is that the File History service is present and running, but the File History feature will not open when clicked. I have a feeling this is related and I’m missing just one piece of the puzzle.
Edit: tried adding back System Guard, Defender, Security Center, COM+ API, and Action Center. Still no luck.
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Totally. I’m not here to say that you should apply any of the changes I’ve suggested. I just want to use your config as a starting point so I can make changes that suit my needs. It just so happens that Windows Backup is finicky as sh*t.
I’ll give your new config a try.
Hello to all. Im new here. Was going to make my own iso, but you done most of the work for gaming
Just wonder is this script will work on iso from microsoft itself or i rather download from that website there iso's already updated. Looking at numbers you working on slighly newer build, must be updated 21h2. Thanks
Just wonder is this script will work on iso from microsoft itself or i rather download from that website there iso's already updated. Looking at numbers you working on slighly newer build, must be updated 21h2. Thanks
Thank you, one more silly question. I was reading manual, but still not 100% sure how complete update. Do i just download, verify and enqueue updates? Or there more steps. Should i enqueue updates, cook iso and then apply your script? Sorry for silly questions, but this field is new to me
I'll post my preset here, for comparison purposes. Its conservative, all things considered. But backup and restore works there, also WiDi, SMB, Search and all the basics.
I've found that sometimes, comparing presets helps see what you removed that you shouldn't have or something you could have removed and didn't.
I could probably have removed more there, but, at this point, Removing anything significant risks breaking functionality I use or adding unwanted errors and annoyances.
EDIT: Forgot to add: I use a script based on MDL's post about adding missing packages back into Windows 10 LTSC 21. Mount the image with NTLite, close the application, have the needed files downloaded from UUPDump into my working folder for experiments, and run the script. I'll also leave it here in case anyone wants to use it.
[DISCUSSION] Windows 10 Enterprise/IoT Enterprise (N) LTSC 2021
Sorry, I thought there was an N version of IoT LTSC as well. There should be within this image, although I can't confirm at this moment....
Link with the post with the packages you'll need, also get the Wireless Display if you want it and add it and the local translation pack to folders 4 and 5
Keep in mind that NTLite mount folder is pretty consistent, but the Package path will depend on where you have the files saved. So adjust the bolded paths to whatever your system is configured to.
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I tried your GamerOS 10 preset (with Windows 11) and I could not complete the installation. There was an error during the setup phase that was unrelated to the TPM check.
I'm still in testing here, but I seemed to narrow down the dependency for Backup and Restore to something inside Components -> Networking and/or Remoting & Privacy. PhsMu may be on to something when they mentioned a possible relation to SMB dependencies...
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I've narrowed it down to Remoting and Privacy. I went and chose everything I thought was good to remove, found that Windows Backup failed, and am now backtracking through about 23 different options, just a few at a time. Unfortunately, each reinstallation via VM takes about an hour to fully test out.
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I'm finding that whatever removed component is breaking compatibility with Backup may be undocumented / unintended. None of the components in NTLite mention compatibility in any way. I fired up the Event Viewer when the backup runs and found that svchost.exe crashes with an error that is not referenced on the internet anywhere. I'm still messing around with finding which component is causing the issue.
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Nailed it down to Windows Error Reporting, Rights Management Support, Packet Monitor, and/or Diagnostics and Troubleshooting.
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It's the Windows Error Reporting service. Now I'm seeing if it's Troubleshooting support or the Telemetry Client specifically. After that, I will continue on with a regular install and see if there's anything else that breaks support for Backup.
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Components -> Windows Error Reporting Service -> Problem Reports and Solutions Control Panel Support must be kept for Windows 7 Backup and Restore to remain working. Now that I believe I've found the root cause, I will go ahead with the GamerOS preset and continue testing.
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LanmanWorkstation service to be precise, which detects and mounts SMB shares. Server doesn't need to be on. I do know its a fallback and only needed if something else (which was introduced after windows 7) is removed, I just don't know who/what the other one is. I know because if its relying on LanmanWorkstation, it only shows the legacy Backup and Restoration link, not the File History.
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See my above post.
Components -> Windows Error Reporting Service -> Problem Reports and Solutions Control Panel Support must be kept for Windows 7 Backup and Restore to remain working. Now that I believe I've found the root cause, I will go ahead with the GamerOS preset and continue testing.
Maybe this is worthy of a bug report or something?
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I tested these changes with the GamerOS 10 Final and original GamerOS 11 presets, but still no luck. Aside from Windows Error Reporting and Volume Shadow Copy, there's something else that's being removed which is causing the failure with Windows Backup. However, the behaviour of when the failure happens is different. While the backup is attempting to interact with the Volume Shadow Copy, it seems to stall out instead of fail immediately. I will try out PhsMu's attached preset and see what's what. My guess at this point is that another unrelated component is causing the failure.
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Some combination of components in Networking, Remoting & Privacy, and System are required for Windows Backup. I've tried fulling enabling each category on their own to test, and it's only when all three are checked off that Windows Backup will function. I don't know if I have the patience to figure this out... I've already reinstalled Win11 upwards of 20 times.
And just an FYI: I did find an alternative solution in Cobian Reflector as a free, reliable, feature-rich, and easy incremental backup software.
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There is some unholy combination of components for Windows Backup to function. It also seems to involve Internet Connection Sharing in addition to my previous findings. I can't do anymore. I was able to still remove and disable the biggest annoyances from Windows, which I'm still happy with. Thank you Txmmy for the base preset and garlin and PhsMu for the help.
Components -> Windows Error Reporting Service -> Problem Reports and Solutions Control Panel Support must be kept for Windows 7 Backup and Restore to remain working. Now that I believe I've found the root cause, I will go ahead with the GamerOS preset and continue testing.
Maybe this is worthy of a bug report or something?
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I tested these changes with the GamerOS 10 Final and original GamerOS 11 presets, but still no luck. Aside from Windows Error Reporting and Volume Shadow Copy, there's something else that's being removed which is causing the failure with Windows Backup. However, the behaviour of when the failure happens is different. While the backup is attempting to interact with the Volume Shadow Copy, it seems to stall out instead of fail immediately. I will try out PhsMu's attached preset and see what's what. My guess at this point is that another unrelated component is causing the failure.
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Some combination of components in Networking, Remoting & Privacy, and System are required for Windows Backup. I've tried fulling enabling each category on their own to test, and it's only when all three are checked off that Windows Backup will function. I don't know if I have the patience to figure this out... I've already reinstalled Win11 upwards of 20 times.
And just an FYI: I did find an alternative solution in Cobian Reflector as a free, reliable, feature-rich, and easy incremental backup software.
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There is some unholy combination of components for Windows Backup to function. It also seems to involve Internet Connection Sharing in addition to my previous findings. I can't do anymore. I was able to still remove and disable the biggest annoyances from Windows, which I'm still happy with. Thank you Txmmy for the base preset and garlin and PhsMu for the help.
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This Windows 10 min file was actually pretty good. Added back a few that I wanted such as the store and other small ones.
Thanks
Hi all. I'm testing this preset but I am having a problem running some exe files. When I open them Windows doesn't know how to open them and shows the window to select a program to do it with.Here, however, there is only the option to search on the Store, which once opened indicates that it filters a search with the "res" key (as if it were the file extension that Windows is unable to open).
One example is Adobe Acrobat installer (download manager, not offline package).
I haven't removed any components from the preset, just changed some theoretically irrelevant settings.
One example is Adobe Acrobat installer (download manager, not offline package).
I haven't removed any components from the preset, just changed some theoretically irrelevant settings.
What's the actual file name, using DIR (not File Explorer if you've hidden file extensions)?
there is an error installing epic games, the installation fails.
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what error ?
I managed to make a really stripped down epic games / steam compatible preset with everything working fine. Be carefull to change the region to your wishes because it's on the azerty layount and french input since i'm french. You will have .exe error messages but they work just fine. Managed to get over 1250 fps stable on fortnite, performance mode, with a r7 5800x an a 3060 ti. Hope it is usefull
Consider installing classic shell as windows search is broke aswell (win+r still work fine)
Consider installing classic shell as windows search is broke aswell (win+r still work fine)