GamerOS Windows 10 & 11 DIY Preset

There was an MVS collection which had that ISO if I'm not mistaken... yes, it does. Do you want a PM or should I post it here?

I had to leave LTSC 2019 behind because of controller support, as old controllers broke and had to be replaced.
 
thanks i got them :). im not expecting there to be much between them.
 
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Standard (Desktop Experience), as expected, not impressed. stick to ltsc.
edit - might be worth comparing various settings, see whats enabled/disabled, policies/features/capabilities etc, not something i am able or bothered to do. might end up a lot of work for very little reward.
 
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fair. My attempts showed similar results, but since I'm a little more 'forgiving' to some features, I thought that was the reason for the diminishing returns. It turns out to be the base material its an even less polishable turd than 21H2.
 
PhsMu said:
fair. My attempts showed similar results, but since I'm a little more 'forgiving' to some features, I thought that was the reason for the diminishing returns.
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same here, kind of, i partially put it down to a lack of knowledge, i may be missing a few things and other things i go in guns blazing, there will be a lot of breakages others wont accept but i do. to get ltsc to around 9500 handles requires serious work on the services and other things(kludges), bareboned with no networking. about 12500 with networking.

PhsMu said:
It turns out to be the base material its an even less polishable turd than 21H2.
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hmm, an ltsc or server from the same build, 17763, should give near similar results once they have been tweaked to the same degree, one will be a bit better but it wont be night and day and in my mind that aint worth it.

always better to use mainstream builds, ltsb/c are mainstream whether ms like it or not and mainstream builds are where all the really great work is done. if server was that good everyone and their cat would be using it but they aint.

bear in mind i do all my stuff post install and would break setup if applied to an image.
 
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I would advise to not remove speechapi 'Speech API' (you can still remove speechcommon 'Speech Recognition' and speechtts 'Speech TTS' though). This component is needed to run Farcry 6, otherwise it'll crash on start

On side note, I know Phasmophobia (game) listens to what you say which in turn influences the ghost's activity/actions (even when you don't use push to talk in game). Perhaps with this in mind, speech recognition component(s) might be critical for this game to function correctly. I haven't tested if that's the case though
 
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LTSC 1809 is much lighter on resources once ive played with it, around 12000 handles. how ltsc 1809 compares to the server 1809 i dont know. i have heard that defender on server can be completely removed. all heresay because i dont have access to server 1809.
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You can remove Windows Defender on every Version of Windows 10.
With three lines of code.

1. Making Packages Visible by removing Owner restrictions
2. Removing Packages with DISM
( ofc you can optimize this code for better results, especially on newer builds. )
Windows.10.Defender_Uninstall.ps1

Set-ItemProperty -Path "REGISTRY::HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Component Based Servicing\Packages\*Windows-Defender*" -Name Visibility -Value "1" Remove-Item -Path "REGISTRY::HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Component Based Servicing\Packages\*Windows-Defender*" -Include *Owner* -Recurse -Force | Out-Null Get-ChildItem -Path "REGISTRY::HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Component Based Servicing\Packages\*Windows-Defender*" -Name | ForEach-Object {dism /online /remove-package /PackageName:$_ /NoRestart}

Replacing Windows-Defender accordingly with Packages-Name, for other removals.

There was another possibility, too.
I think editing the .mum files accordingly so that it can be removed using windows add/remove features. (Windows Server removal similar)

It is a shame that the older Windows versions no longer receive updates.
Which forces users to switch to the latest version, if only because of anti-cheat support.

Z100/Z200 Series ran very well on older Windows versions. Strangely, new mainboards run shitty on these Windows versions, for whatever reason.

And keep in mind, if you use 1809 with Ntlite Update-Feature, it will Integrate newest LTSC 1809 Feature Pack. ( What caused some Issues )
Latest 1809 Feature Pack for Pro/Home etc. was at 2021/05.
 
i'll be tinkering with ltsc sometime this week, giving the new preset templates a go, see if i can get handles and threads down. if defender can be removed from an image without breaking setup great, if it dont i'll compromise and use defender killer.
 
Clanger said:
i'll be tinkering with ltsc sometime this week, giving the new preset templates a go, see if i can get handles and threads down. if defender can be removed from an image without breaking setup great, if it dont i'll compromise and use defender killer.
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What do you mean with breaking Setup, i never had Setup problems with removing Windows Defender (Ntlite)?

The only thing I noticed is that you can no longer change exploit security settings via the security center. That means if you want to deactivate something, you would have to do it via the registry or GPolicy.
 
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What do you mean with breaking Setup, i never had Setup problems with removing Windows Defender (Ntlite)?
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ive broken setup just disabling defender on 1809 ltsc. got ram upgrade coming this weekend so i can do it all in a vm and it'll make my life easier. 8gb struggles.
 
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This is a great beginning. :)

Let me take a further look in next days, would be glad to help somehow as well.
I had been interested for a very long time, but never found the motivation to do the detail work.
 
Kjell said:
I would advise to not remove speechapi 'Speech API' (you can still remove speechcommon 'Speech Recognition' and speechtts 'Speech TTS' though). This component is needed to run Farcry 6, otherwise it'll crash on start

On side note, I know Phasmophobia (game) listens to what you say which in turn influences the ghost's activity/actions (even when you don't use push to talk in game). Perhaps with this in mind, speech recognition component(s) might be critical for this game to function correctly, I haven't tested if that's the case though
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I think Forza Horizon 5 has a similar issue for it's screen reader accessibility built-in feature.
It will display annoying error but you CAN play it without further problems. I'll test if the error will go away for sure if I keep the basic module ;)
 
I used the preset just this week, but I'm feeling it could use a minor bit of tweaking.

Calculator is busted and Notepad is missing the shortcut in the Start Menu. These aren't gaming apps, but are still quite useful.
Windows Backup is also non-functional. I do other non-gaming stuff that requires personal files to be backed up.
WiFi is removed by default. Not everyone games over Ethernet (even though they should, if possible.)

This is all on me, though, since I should have been more thorough in checking which components were removed. Otherwise, this is really quite nice and I'm not missing the constant interruptions a normal Windows install brings.
 
CatSlobber thanks for your endorsement, really appreciated, I will be fixing up the presets, I dont know about windows backup as I thought you needed to be logged in to microsoft for that feature to work, Ive used things like amoei backupper and stuff like that but cant find myself suggesting that to others because many times I run the restore and wind up having to reinstall windows anyways cause it will no longer boot, these presets were created at a time when windows 11 was alot like windows 10, things have changed now and I shall change with it, I really have no joy when it comes to windows 11 and find myself struggling to choose an os, I currently have Server2019, Windows 10 and 11, I really love windows server for that 1.40ms latency and that system state backup feature where I can just boot into safe mode and start restore and bang back to the day I did the backup
 
I was able to solve my issues by enabling the following:

Components -> System -> Volume Shadow Copy (API)
Components -> Windows Apps -> Apps -> Notepad
Components -> Network -> WLAN

I did not know that the Calculator in Win11 is now a shitty UWP app. Apparently it has reduced functionality and must be updated from the Store. No thanks. I found the classic Windows 7 calculator app from WinAero.net which does not require the Store to run.

Volume Shadow Copy allows the Backup and Restore (Windows 7) app to be executed from the Control Panel for local backups, which is what I was needing.
 
CatSlobber said:
I found the classic Windows 7 calculator app from WinAero.net which does not require the Store to run.
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you just need calc.exe and calc.exe.mui, create an en-us folder next to calc.exe and put the mui file in it. snipping tool and task manager work on w10 too.
 
Clanger said:
you just need calc.exe and calc.exe.mui, create an en-us folder next to calc.exe and put the mui file in it. snipping tool and task manager work on w10 too.
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Unfortunately, no such luck with Windows 10 or 11. The calc app is completely dependent on the Store and calc.exe.mui does not exist. Might be a recent change with an update, I'm not too knowledgeable on this. I'll continue using the old Win7 calc, not the end of the world here. Definitely a MS problem and nothing to do with the NTLite preset.

Also, I found that simply enabling Volume Shadow Copy (along with System Restore) is not enough to make the Windows 7 Backup feature work. The app opens and runs, but fails immediately when it begins to make the backup. I confirmed so far that it's not an issue with how I've configure the backup. For frame of reference, I use the Windows backup because it does incremental. Most other trustworthy backup software charge money for this feature. Any ideas on what I can enable to make this function properly?
 
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